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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:20 pm

Timing Belt Change is either in KM or Years Which ever comes First !
What are the limits from Mahindra on this ie how Many KM for a Timing Belt change or how Many years ? I had mine done at 70 thousand ! I do not want to buy a new engine and I travel at speeds on our European Motorways
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:57 pm

Its at 60,000KM service that it should be done. In years i think that will come about to 3 or 3.5yrs. I had mine changed on my previous service which was the 60K one. They gave me the old one and could not make out any sort of wear.

Since its The timing belt and like you say it affects the engine directly No-Questions-Asked just accepted the change and the cost along with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:25 pm

Thats correct zapping ! If they say do it they do not say it as a joke ! They want us to be pleased with the car ! they are not out to make us pay for parts we dont need I like your attitude zapping and you will have your car for a long time if you keep like that
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:46 pm

lucky,had it been a diesel,the effects would have been enormous.i got the same problem,spent 40000 still face startin problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:31 am

Sohan,

What problem did you faced? Did you broke your timing belt? at what kms?

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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:43 pm

Had water pump jammed that lead to belt getting broken.
Advice for all logan diesel users get the water pump changed when u get the timing belt changed. Otherwise u will be in my position and dont ignore even if a small noise comes from timing unit.

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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:07 pm

ok. just to confirm.. while driving whenever my rpm goes above 2200, something whistles from under the bonnet, is it because of water pump?

It's whisteling means, is it faulty?

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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:06 am

Welcome me to the group ...
67000KM 5 yr old Petrol Logan suspected timing belt snap on highway to airport ...

Luckily traffic was very sparse. Passenger managed to get on flight, so relieved

Needed a tow to the workshop ...
Will be given diagnosis tomorrow, with cost estimate for repair

giving me nightmares tonight!
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:06 pm

god ... save the belts..... & can you answer my query....?

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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:59 pm

If the timing belt snaps then its BIG TIME trouble ! you will more than likely find that the Valves drop down into the space the piston leaves when it falls and then when it comes back up again ! KABAAAAAAAMMMM Holes in Pistons and all because the owner decided to wait for changing (It cant happen to me syndrome ) and yes you need to replace the water pump at the same time ! It would be stupid not to do this because if you need to change a water pump you need to remove the timing Belt
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:21 pm

my 60,000 kms service is going to come soon.
Anyone did 60,000 kms service recently? what was the cost?

My service center charged me a fixed amount for 50,000 kms service. but still on top of it they charge extra for cleaning brakes and other things. is it normal?
is not this amount a part of that fixed amount they charge for each service? can anyone please clarify?
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:33 pm

Cleaning Brakes ????

Look Is your car still under guarantee ?If not say that you want the Timing Belt and Water Pump changed (Water pump gets changed at this time as well) it would be silly not to change the water pump because to do this you have to remove the timing belt :sunny:If you know that your Brakes are ok then tell them to just do what you have said ! Check your brakes by taking off the wheel and look at the disk for deep grooves and the Pad for "LOTS" of wear you will see when they are worn down by just looking at them up to 1/4 of an inch is good for at least 10000km or more but below must be changed
So like I said if its not under Guarantee

1 Oil change and filter
2 Timing belt and water pump and Gaskets
3 Depending on how old ! Air Filter

I have my own Man who is in fact very cheap and is a Romanian and works very well My total Cost for my Service was 300€ with parts I think thats about 21000 rs But like I said get the water pump done with it !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:34 pm

Oh and AC Clean !!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:33 am

I just inquired from Royal Motors, Kolkata the cost of timing belt is Rs 4900 and water pump is Rs 4500. Does the timing belt alone costs so much or this price includes any valves replaced while changing the timing belt?
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:57 am

Timing belt is quality stuff and you have tensioner and stuff with it
Its worth every penny
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Tue May 07, 2013 2:14 am

Here the Mahindra workshop sells the Timing kit instead of just the belt, which consists of the timing belt and the tensioner. Just want to know do I need to change the tensioner also along with the belt. Might be a stupid question.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Tue May 07, 2013 4:58 am

You need to change the timing belt the tensioner and he Water pump and Gaskets
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PostSubject: Help Required!!!    Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:54 pm

Hello Guys,

this is Sohel, i am from mumbai (this is my first post, so thought of introducing myself)

I am a proud owner of 2007 Logan 1.4 gls Euro3 since last 1 year (bought a used logan last year)Smile
Today morning while going to office my car suddenly stopped and then didnt turned ON after several attempts for ignition (I was driving on 3rd gear and all of the sudden it de-accelerate automatically, i thought this might be because of something wrong with the petrol supply or due to the Heavy rain).
I called the mechanic and he checked the spark plug, Battery etc, but cudn't start the car so he suggest me to take the car to his garage where he have other experienced members who might fetch the actual cause.
And so we towed the car to garage. The other guy guessed that the Timing belt might be the reason for the car not starting, And my bad he was Correct!
The Timing belt was broken (Car has completed 56000KMS), I inquired about the cost it would take to fix this issue and the mechanic said it would cost me somthing around 10000-30000!!!Shocked
When i asked him that how could a broken belt cost you 10-30k!, he replied that he have to open the valve and have to check if its allright (he said 99.99% time whenever the timimng belt breaks the valve bends down too).

I am really very confuse:( can someone here help me out, it would be really kind if any one can help me out with the pricing and some good garage here in mumbai.


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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:02 pm

What he is saying is correct, i just gave my diesel logan for servicing , its nearing 6 years, done 45k on the odo. Till not i have not got the timing belt changed. Ther service advisor said the same thing, that in the manual its mentioned to be replaced every 30,000 kms or 3 years. He advised to change the same and said if it breaks the valve would hit the piston and the cost or repairs would be 30k then.

So he said its better to spend 5k now on timing belt rather than spending 30k when it gets broken. He also said that he will check the water pump, to see the condition for the same. When i said do both the items need to be changed together he said its not necessary.

As of now he is inspecting the vehicle and will call me post inspection for parts that need to be changed.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:28 pm

Went for service today, car is clocked 45,000 kms, nearing 6years in September. The service advisor is strongly suggesting to change the timing belt as it can cause an issue tomorrow. He showed in the service manual where it is mentioned to be replaced every 3 years or 60,000 kms.

As my driving is less and have not done much kms, should i go ahead and get the timing belt changed.
What about the water pump, should that be replaced too. The adviser was saying that you should drain the coolant out and refill new one completely. Is it necessary to do, till today they have always topped up and never drained the coolant.

At times it is very difficult to judge what is actually required and what they are just trying to push through. Any inputs on this would be welcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Hi Dushie,
 Its good to change the timing belt. Its one of the core parts and if that goes out then it will mean lots of trouble. I change mine at around 50,000km. When the returned the old belt it was not much worn out. But cannot say. It will be another 6months or 10,000km for another service. Coolant drain is standard procedure i too had it done. Water pump they say its good to do, for cost effectiveness, because if it goes out then it will mean the same process needs to be followed as changing timing belt. But i had not changed mine the service guy told its in good condition after checking.


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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:04 pm

30k is only if there is more damage like valve breakdown etc.
just replacing timing belt should not be 30k. As Dushie mentioned it would be around 5 - 8k.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:08 pm

Latest update, they checked the timing belt and said it is good to go, so they are not going to change the same, i double checked and they said not required, also no coolant change too. They said the existing coolant is fine and they would just do top up. Only expenses apart from regular service that came up were for the front brakes, the shoes had worn out and they recommended to replace the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:23 pm

the mechanic opened the engine head and showed me the bend in valve (3 valves damaged)
he asked me a list of spare which i bought today frm Operah house (grant road)
full packing set - 5500
altocation pulley bearing- 500
set of valve- 2500

Remaining spares like Timing belt, altocation belt will be available at the garage so i dnt know the cost for same
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PostSubject: Re: Timing belt change recommendation    Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:56 pm

What Zapping said is absolute CORRECT !  If your timing belt goes it is a Capital breakdown with the need of a new motor ! the water pump is a normal part of Timing belt change ! If you do not do it you will have the feeling that at any time it can go ! and if it does its Bye Bye Motor !
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