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PostSubject: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:18 pm

Dear all,

I am planning to book verito D4 or D6, but I am a bit
confused as I get this information regarding logan from a lot of forums.
I am not sure if this has been addressed in Verito. Any confirmation reagrding the same will be benificial in making the decision........ affraid scratch
1) Hard clutch leading to early wear out of clutch: Needs change of the clutch cable.
2) Hard power steering :
3) Vibrations and noise from the dash board and other plastic ...
4) Maintenance cost and spare part cost are high.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:18 pm

I am using diesel logan for last 3 yrs and 20000 kms. no issue. in fact i have not serviced the logan since last 18 months. only oil is changed. so u can figure out the maintenance cost. if u r not a fan of logan and space is not a issue go for dzire. excellent engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:30 pm

i own a verito D6 dude.. I didnt find any such issues in my car til now. i definitely disagree wit the third point. Yes ofcourse,the clutch is hard a bit as it is new. but not for long.. nowadays its getting loose. and power steering is may be an issue. i mean its not gonna be a pblm. but i find some difference in verito from the other kind of cars which has power steering. To make it short,verito is not that much sensitive in power steering. But it aint gonna be a pblm. I didnt have any kind of difficulties til now with issues u have mentioned.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Dear all,

The issues regarding Logan highlighted by me are picked from
a bunch of forums.
So may be new car owners may not realize the same early on.

Is it possible that the same issues may crop up at a later stage?
My query was whether these have been addressed in
Verito.


Also according to me a diesel vehicle with 20000kms in three
years is frugally operated car so may be u may or may not face the problem.
Or is it possible that this is one off case.

I loved the D4 Verito for looks and space, but if
reliability, maintenance and spare part cost is a question then may be my
decision may shift to ugly looking Dzire VDI.

Looking forward to discuss this……
Thanks for your valuable comments.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:01 pm

3 Yrs 11 Months 54000 kms. No problem. I have been able to live with all those quotes mentioned on various forums.

All I know is that my car will be there to take me wherever I ask for at any time.

Regarding the heave power steering, I kind of like it as it makes the car feel more stable when I rip it beyond 120kmph.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:56 pm

1) Hard clutch leading to early wear out of clutch: Needs change of the clutch cable.

Service Adviser told that me that clutch in Logan has been changed to Hydraulic in D6 model. Mine is a D6, It is little hard when compared to Zen. But not that hard which will cause some issues to leg.
I guess in D6 and D4 it is hydraulic while in D2 it is still wired. But this change was done even before Verito was launched.

2) Hard power steering :

Power steering is hard, but many a times I dont find this as an issue.

3) Vibrations and noise from the dash board and other plastic ...
For me Vibration in dashboard started only after they removed and refitted the dashboard the first time due to AC water issue. But when the AC water issue resurfaced they removed and refitted the dashboard again and no issues as of now. So if your dashboard is rattling, service center should be able to fix it.


4) Maintenance cost and spare part cost are high.
You can expect a bill of 3000 to 5000 rs per 6 months or 10,000 Kms when you drop your vehicle for normal service.
Compare this cost with other vehicles and decide on this.

60,000 Kms service cost will be anywhere around 15,000 to 20,000 +


To add to the above, I spoke with one business man at a service center who uses this car and his car had run for 1,25,000 Kms. He said no issues with the car and he like this car. The original JK tyres had come for 60,000 kms for him which was very surprising.(Normal age is 35,000 to 50,000). He said he maintains pressure of 30 psi all around and ride is very good for him

Spoke another person at service center who had come for 60,000 kms service. Their car was bought second hand when it was at 19,000 Kms and he likes this car. No issues in car so far for them. But the 60,000 Kms service cost was some 22,000+ rs for them. Not sure what all was changed

Also talked with a cab driver whose car is just 3 months old and has run 30,000 kms. He owns and operates this as a drop cab for an MNC. He said no issues with the car so far. But he gets a mileage of 12.5kmpl in city with AC on all times. But when asked about his driving style he said it is rash and drives mostly as fully loaded( 4 to 5 people).
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:50 pm

D2 comes with a cable clutch????? pale Chaps at the showroom told me only the BSIII comes with a cable cluth and all BSIV come with hydraulic.

Can somebody in the know clarify?
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:46 am

I guess you are right..Can anyone please confirm..
I had this because taxi driver I met at India Garage told me that high end comes with Hydraulic and his is D2 and comes with cable clutch and is easy to replace.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:30 am

MyCoolLogan wrote:

Spoke another person at service center who had come for 60,000 kms service. Their car was bought second hand when it was at 19,000 Kms and he likes this car. No issues in car so far for them. But the 60,000 Kms service cost was some 22,000+ rs for them. Not sure what all was changed

At 60,000 they probably asked him to change timing belt, clutch plates, brake shoes, filters (air,oil,fuel), radiator clean-up, A/C duct clean up, oil change. (Am told there is no need to change gear oil for the entire lifetime of the vehicle).

BTW, it was interesting to see the bonnet design. The exposed hinges and the gap at the top end of the bonnet is actually interesting for a vehicle whose pedigree is utility. We liked it.Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:35 pm

has anyone with BS3 model tried to upgrade to a hydraulic one?

i know the cable clutch is hard but does it being hard mean that it will wear out early?

Regarding the hard power steering i think its awesome .the car feels more planted at higher speeds because of it .
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:43 am

karan wrote:
has anyone with BS3 model tried to upgrade to a hydraulic one?

i know the cable clutch is hard but does it being hard mean that it will wear out early?

Regarding the hard power steering i think its awesome .the car feels more planted at higher speeds because of it .



When you say Wear Out, do you mean replacement of the clutch cable or the Clutch plate itself?



I've changed the clutch cable just once in my 54000kms+. The clutch assy still seems to be going strong. Will have it checked in next service. Hopefully it will last till 60-65k
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:49 pm

Your clutch cable will last years !!! Its made to last Mmmmm come to think of it though you guys do have a longer clutch cable than we do so who knows there could be some strain on it
HEY how about looking at the set up of the clutch cable ! Maybe you can remove a few bends from the cable by repositioning it
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:10 pm

vsuprak wrote:
karan wrote:
has anyone with BS3 model tried to upgrade to a hydraulic one?

i know the cable clutch is hard but does it being hard mean that it will wear out early?

Regarding the hard power steering i think its awesome .the car feels more planted at higher speeds because of it .



When you say Wear Out, do you mean replacement of the clutch cable or the Clutch plate itself?



I've changed the clutch cable just once in my 54000kms+. The clutch assy still seems to be going strong. Will have it checked in next service. Hopefully it will last till 60-65k

im a noob dont know much about technicalities .but that answers my question .i dont need to be worried just because it is hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:04 pm

That is correct Dont worry just drive the car it wont break down its a LOGAN bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:24 pm

@Surya, How much did you pay for Change of Clutch Plates?

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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:49 pm

My experience after ownership since May 2007:

1) Hard clutch leading to early wear out of clutch: Needs change of the clutch cable.

- Yes it is hard compared to Dezire or Fiesta or any other similar models Smile Dont know about Petrol ones but clutch of Diesel is getting difficult to handle day by day - even after wire change.

@stu - You cant remove bends in wire as its tied to various places and no way you can remove them Sad

Can someone confirm the price of upgrading wired to hydraulic? I am in Lucknow and here they dont even have clutch wires in stock - strange na !!

2) Hard power steering :

- Again yes, its hard compared to Dezire. These days I have a chance to park a Dezire daily, and I feel jealous by seing those improvements in Dzire.

3) Vibrations and noise from the dash board and other plastic ...

- Cheap plastics always make vibrations and yes Logans have cheap plastics - dont know about verito.

4) Maintenance cost and spare part cost are high.

- Well maintenance cost you need to compare through savings in using Diesel fuel consumption, all Diesels cost a bit more.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:55 pm

1) Yes the Clutch is hard and I am looking for an upgrade to Hydraulic too(Guess if not possible, I still can live with it! Not terrible!). Dunno the cost though
2) Hmm yes the Power steering is a lil harder than most but it feel good on high speeds! Not very hard that it'd keep bugging you!
3) No Noise or Vibration from the plastics. Had that issue earlier but no more after the alterations were done!
4) Havent quite experienced costly spares. Infact have read reviews in all leading auto magazines stating maintainance is not really a concern in the Well built Logan! I have similar thoughts.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:13 pm

I agree on the points with Saumil.

I like the heavy steering over 60kmph. It's not that bothersome even at traffic speeds.

Hard clutch, I wish they did something about that, but I can live with it.

Am having some plastic vibration issues but service guys take care during each visit. The solution always last till about the next service time.



Havent bought many spares except clutch wire, brake pads and a tail lamp. So not felt the pinch so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:04 pm

I tried Power steering on a new Verito, to my very surprise it is very very light than my Logan. I strongly feel they have made some adjustments to steering in Verito. Can anyone please compare and confirm?
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:54 pm

Smile Actually above 60 kmph all steerings become power steering (even NON power ones too due to less friction), the real test is in stalled, traffic and low speed conditions and I am proud owner of Logan but still I will say it fails in that. Even you cant even compare with their other products Scorpio & Xylo.



I wish if I could confirm the clutch change but useless people here in Lucknow dont even know about general maintenance, coz same people service Marshal, Bolero, Scorpio and their Tempo's (A Automovers).
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:26 am

The Logan power steering is made to to work Less at High speed and more at low speed ! as with all power steering
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PostSubject: Logan appearance after say a year or two   Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:45 pm

I have recently bought a logan 1.5 DLE. since than i have seen many not so old Logans in very bad shaps...
so any one using logan for past 2 or three year or more, please help me out. Does its body goes all over the place like the indica or indigo???
what about its engine performance over a long period>>??
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:18 pm

My Logan will be 5 this year and it still looks like new !! and drives like new (If not Better) its not the car that messes up its the drivers that mess THEM up
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PostSubject: Re: Logan maintainence issues alive in verito?????   Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:43 pm

anybody from india plz. i am looking for a reply.
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