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PostSubject: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:49 pm

After months of trouble, French carmaker Renault and homegrown Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M ) are all set to resolve their differences and announce a new restructured plan for their joint venture.The revamp will see the Logan sedan being repositioned as a small car shorter in length,with a compact petrol engine.

The Petrol engine will most probably be borrowed from the Nissan Micra down to 1200 cc. Diesel will remain Untouched!

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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:52 pm

Here are pictures of the Shortened Dacia Logan on the lines of which the Logan will be reduced in Length.



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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:52 pm

New logan owners like me has a little relief because all my friends are telling that they will stop production.Thanks god.Offical announcement yet to come. wait for that .
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:54 pm

Renault will NEVER stop Production or Support to the LOGAN. take my WORD for it! IT is not a A Star or a Opel Corsa! The logan is one of the WORLDS HIGHEST Selling Cars.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:25 pm

The white Dacia above is over 3 years old now i saw this photo in 2007
and yes make no mistake you will still be getting logan parts when you draw your pension


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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:39 pm

And regarding the above photo once again have you noticed the "OLD" Dacia shield

but now for the rest it was a 4x4 protype in Romania in 2008
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http://www.nextautos.com/news/2008/04/14/spied-tiny-tough-dacia-logan-4%C3%974
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:49 pm

^ +1 to that. They will not stop support.

But i'm beginning to get worried about what kind of service experience I'll have to go through, in case I need to take my car for a service next time.

What about parts availability? As it is, I'm hearing news that dealers have small stocks of parts in Bangalore.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:02 pm

The rest of the world has parts for you and when the worse comes to the worst you have me over here
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:46 am

what segment they want to target with this trimmed shitty Logan ? In Diesel versions they are planning to save only 10% in excise duty and rest is same (engine, chesis etc) with additional 10% reduction in trimmed boot.

With this 20% reduced price of 7 Lacs, Are they planning to beat Swift or Dzire or Indigo or Vista? Or just planning to put their MR venture on drip.

In my views the only attraction Logan had till now in India was SPACE (wide body & boot), which was their USP for selling Logan in India, now with this trimmed version they will loose this feature as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:04 am

I could order and send Boots over !You would just have to find a way to stick them on
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:44 am

ezee wrote:
what segment they want to target with this trimmed shitty Logan ? In Diesel versions they are planning to save only 10% in excise duty and rest is same (engine, chesis etc) with additional 10% reduction in trimmed boot.

With this 20% reduced price of 7 Lacs, Are they planning to beat Swift or Dzire or Indigo or Vista? Or just planning to put their MR venture on drip.

In my views the only attraction Logan had till now in India was SPACE (wide body & boot), which was their USP for selling Logan in India, now with this trimmed version they will loose this feature as well.

I agree with this. Without localization dropping prices lots more, this simply does not work for a diesel Logan.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:56 pm

I don't find it that bad. Its looks okay. Only when one gets to see it physically can a decision be made.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:17 pm

My perception is that shortening its length will hit a harder blow to Logan's sales. Why aren't MR guys taking the feedback of non owners of Logan for their take on Logan and coming to a solution for rejuvenating its sales.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:47 pm

I asked Mr. Anand Mahindra, "Why the delay in any official announcement on MRPL."
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AnandMahindra- I agree! Hope to have it soon. But I reiterate, no cause for Logan-owners concern.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:17 pm

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AnandMahindra- I agree! Hope to have it soon. But I reiterate, no cause for Logan-owners concern.

Phew! I was already beginning to listen to small niggling stories from my dealer


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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:25 pm

I dont think any of the existing logan owners will go for another logan from mahindra. May be they will be able to sell it in villages as milk vans, because those buyers are not worried about reselling value.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:08 pm

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I dont think any of the existing logan owners will go for another logan from mahindra. May be they will be able to sell it in villages as milk vans, because those buyers are not worried about reselling value.

That might be too harsh a quote I feel.
If at all I had to replace my existing Logan and was constrained to buy something in the similar budget, I'd probably look at Logan again.

It makes practical sense to me. A set of 4 wheels with a ride comfort beyond its price a good build and good FE

And yes. It takes me from point A to point B.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:05 pm

Some new information


M&M TO PAY MORE TO RENAULT TO REFORM LOGAN PLATFORM
Swaraj Baggonkar
Business Standard (Web & Print Edition)

Mumbai: India’s largest sports utility vehicle maker Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M) will hold negotiations with former joint venture (JV) partner Renault for reforming the Logan platform and making it usable for applications other than passenger cars.

Mahindra had bought Renault’s 49 per cent stake in the troubled Mahindra Renault Private Ltd (MRPL), while gaining limited autonomy to the Logan sedan, in an effort to turn around the loss-making company.

Executives of M&M agreed that besides incurring developmental costs for making engineering changes to the Logan car or its platform, it will also have to make additional payments to Renault, as the French company holds the original right for the car.

A senior M&M executive stated, “To develop the Logan platform we will have to negotiate further with Renault, as this will cost more money to be paid to them. We will first have to get a go-ahead from them before we make any changes to the car”.

Renault, meanwhile, has said it is open to extending all technological or design support needed by M&M for the Logan sedan. M&M is at present conducting a feasibility check on whether a shortened version of the sedan could be launched.

M&M will also have to think about a new name for the car as the Renault branding and the Logan name will have to be discontinued post December 31 this year, as part of the rearrangement of the joint venture agreement between the two companies.

“We will lend our brand name only till the end of the year, as from January 1, 2011 it will be M&M’s responsibility of rebranding the car. We have signed a technical licence agreement and have not sold the platform to M&M, which restricts them to make any free changes,” said a Renault India official.

After the takeover of Renault’s stake, M&M had slashed the price of the Logan by as much as Rs 80,000 in an attempt to regenerate interest among vehicle buyers in the under-performing sedan.

Sales of the Logan showed an improved trend, month on month in May, with sales touching 450 units compared to 303 units sold in April this year. The price cut was brought in force in the final week of April, a little more than a week after M&M bought Renault’s equity in the JV.

M&M has ruled out the option of developing a new car on the Logan platform for the time being, with the official stating the company has no ambitions for the passenger car segment and that the platform could be rather used for other purposes.

“We have several options in front of us, such as a utility vehicle, multi-purpose vehicle, SUV and cross-over, since we have the expertise in that segment with the Scorpio, Bolero and Xylo,” added the M&M official. The medium-term target for M&M is to scale up the sales of the Logan to 900-1,000 units per month, which the company hopes to achieve by December. A Logan less than four metres would attract less taxes, thus making it cheaper than the current one.

Meanwhile, Renault is preparing to have its first standalone car on the road by mid-2011, with the introduction of the Koleos (an SUV) and Fluence (a premium mid-segment sedan). Both will be made at the facility in Chennai, which it shares with partner Nissan.

The company plans to have five models on Indian roads by 2013, including a small car based on the platform on which the Nissan Micra is built. The MPV Kangoo, which will compete against Maruti’s Eeco and Tata’s Venture, will also be subsequently launched.
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/mm-to-pay-more-to-renault-to-reform-logan-platform/398407/
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:35 pm

Mahindra seems to only use LOGAN platform. It will be interesting and to see how they rebrand the Logan after Dec 31st.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:59 am

Pawan Goenka Speaks about the New Logan.

http://clublogan.com/new-modified-cheaper-logan/


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PostSubject: Re: Logan to be a SMALL CAR!!   Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:45 pm

Still no new name revealed for the Logan.
13 months from now, M&M should be looking at paying royalty to Renault in the tune of 3.5% (purely for the royalty) add it with the tax components, the thing should be touching 5%. My guess.
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