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HITESH Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 460 Age : 35 City, Country : ludhiana,punjab.india. LOGAN Model : logan dls ClubLogan Points : 260 Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:50 am | |
| i only went today for the service @ 40,000 kms got brake pads changed. costed 1652 + 360 for brake overhaul + 300 for something they did to disc plates. supervisor was very hardly persuaing me to change the disc and gave me an estimate of 4840 for the same but a mechanic (known to me) told me that they are perfectly in shape and will go easily for next 40,000 kms so got only pads changed he even told me that they will not be responsible if the disc plates break down in middle of road but after talking to the mechanic, it seems that they were only saying such things only to persue me | |
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nitingoel2 Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 100 Age : 39 City, Country : chandigarh LOGAN Model : dle 1.5 ClubLogan Points : 106 Registration date : 2010-04-11
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:58 pm | |
| guys some days back i went to the service center to get my brake pads changed as i drove about 45,000 and one of my friend told me you need to change pads after 40,000 if you wont your discs will get wornd out, serive manager told they will cost me about 1700rs. i was not very happy with the price and service center was almost 200 meters away from the local market so i decided to go and conform there onse, on a shop i found pads from kbx it was written that manufactured by bosch india i conformed from the shopkeeper he said kbx is bosch indias product, they were costing only 650rs. and 100rs. labour total of 750rs almost 1000rs. less then the service center i called a friend or mine got the thing checkd on net he also said that kbx is a bosch product so got the pads changed the mechanic told me they could hav gone more 4 or 5 thousand kms(means i am a gud driver..:p) evryhthing went fine but i get a whistling noise wenever i brake its not that loud but it can be heard i conformed from a mechanic in the agency he said kbx pads work fine only some noise comes as they are little hard then the original pads.. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:16 pm | |
| They need to put a special Grease on the backs of the Pads !!! Its gold in color and stops the screaching
http://www.highgaintuning.com/Liquid_Moly_Copper_Paste_5cc_p/30100000-5.htm
Any "GOOD" garage would know this | |
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nitingoel2 Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 100 Age : 39 City, Country : chandigarh LOGAN Model : dle 1.5 ClubLogan Points : 106 Registration date : 2010-04-11
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:12 pm | |
| there is nothing like this available in here... i conformed... they just said brake pads are harder then the original onse so they will make sum noise no solution | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:49 pm | |
| IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO REPLACE PADS If they do not use the Grease they are not doing a proper job | |
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nitingoel2 Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 100 Age : 39 City, Country : chandigarh LOGAN Model : dle 1.5 ClubLogan Points : 106 Registration date : 2010-04-11
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:29 am | |
| well here in india nobody works properly thats the only problm.... | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 am | |
| Then get some yourself !Take off the wheel and put it on yourself (NOT ON THE PAD ITSELF THOUGH) | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:06 pm | |
| Hi Frnds,
I am facing some problem related to brake. when brake is applied while driving at the speed of 60km/h and plus, there is some sort of vibration in the front side and also break seems like rubbing something roughly. I got checked this in mahindra workshop, the service guy checked the wheels for any play, and also he checked the brake pads and said it will go for another 10km. the service guys checked for some more thing and said that there is no any prob as such. I am planning so check the same with some other workshop, any ideas on this.. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:22 pm | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:13 pm | |
| Hi Frnds,
I got the brake pad changed in mahindra authorized service center(Sutaria Automobiles) in belgaum karnataka when my verito meter showed 40k km. soon after changing the pads I started getting noise when brake is applied. I visited the workshop again, they cleaned the pads and there was no noise for few days, but it started coming again. when I took the car again to the workshop, he checked and said disc surface has turned uneven and due to this there is noise and also he suggested me to change the disc. I asked him to clean the pads again and there was no noise for few more days..
I thought the noise could be because of new pads. today morning I dropped my car for service in bangalore(sireesh automobiles) after completion of 50k km. I complained again about the brake noise prob, he said he will check and let me know. after an hour i got call from service center and they said that the brake pads are not original company pads, i was totally shocked hearing that. I had got it changed in mahindra authorized service center which costed me 2.5k. he also said with these pads there will be no issue with brakes but there will be noise.. i am stunned, how the authorized service center can do that.. how they can put the duplicate parts.. wat is the point getting the car serviced in authorized service center.. guys pleas let me know how can i take this matter to the company. I lost trust on the authorized service centers.. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:07 pm | |
| i would have changed the disks at 40000km its cheap enough to do so as for noisy pads How do they know they are not original ? Pads squeal if the little bits of metal are not fitted they stop the squealing they look like a metal clip | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:30 pm | |
| I would have gone for the disc change if that is the exact cause for the noise, I get different opinion from service engineers in different authorized service centers. today the service engineer said that there is no issue with disc, and he also showed me how the original company pads look like and how it is different from what is installed in my car. he assures that if company pads are installed the noise will not come irrespective of the disc condition. my concern is not only the pads, what if they do similar way in case of any other major replacements.. anyway i have called and logged a complaint for this with customer care. lets see.. it is said that the complaint would be addressed in 24 hours.. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:35 pm | |
| All the pads will look the same just a different name or number but they will be exactly the same or you would not get them to fit ! The easiest way to test you disks is to run your finger from the middle of the disk to the outer end you will feel dips and bumps and at the end a LIP if you have this then its time to change them ! As for what the mechanics say dont worry ! I hope you did not let them fit another set of pads and pay for them !!!!! all they need is to clean and fit and put graphite-based grease on the backs of the brake pad ! NOT THE FRONT ! this stops also the squealing Lots of firms make replacement pads nowadays and are very good as well JUST KEEP AWAY from the stuff from China | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:01 pm | |
| I asked them not to change the brake pads. they cleaned and re fixed the older one but the noise still persist.I checked the pads they are of company KBX. I have taken the pics will share it soon.
I have few doubts, did mahindra ever used KBX pads as default pads in verito? are these the mahindra original company pads? if not which company pads do mahindra use for verito by default.
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:28 pm | |
| And the Disks ??? Did you check like I said | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:17 pm | |
| hi martin,
Yes I checked the disc the way you said.. I dint find any as such uneven surface, I had also asked the service engineer to check the same.
Why I asked doubts is my previous reply is because, now after complaining the matter in the mahindra customer care, the same service engineer who said the pads were local made is now saying the KBXpads are the original mahindra genuine pads. as I know KBX are made by bosch and are not mahindra's genuine spare, but still I am looking for clarification and more details on this.
following are the pics taken of pads | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:33 pm | |
| The vehicle is equipped with the BOSCH 8.0 system which consists of the anti-lock braking system only. | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:38 pm | |
| Thanks martin, how about the pads.. which pads are used in mahindra verito? due you have any idea on KBX pads.. | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:40 pm | |
| Is there any company website or link where I can check the mahindra spares.. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:44 pm | |
| Pads are Pads If you want to buy Pads you do not need to buy the original ones ! In fact its cheaper not to Just look for some nice priced ones and read the test results for them ! as for which ones Mahindra Use I have no idea but they will use the dear ones because they will get the money off you for them anyhow | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:37 pm | |
| Actually my concern is not only for the brake pads, from brake pads only I got to know that authorized service ppl also use some local made spares. that is the reason I am digging more into it. also this can happen with some major parts also... | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:32 pm | |
| Hi,
After complaining at customer care about the local pads used in my car, they inspected and replaced the pads and rotor with the genuine one. so guys, I would suggested you people to verify and cross check the parts that you get replaced in authorized service center. don't trust blindly at least in India.
After replacing the brake pads and rotor, mostly i tend to use the car in city where i hardly touch 60km/hr. but recently when i took the car on highway, the braking on high speed made car vibrate horribly. every time i brake on high speed it shakes the car front portion and also the brake pedals. as the pads and rotors were new i dint suspect them but I suspected the issue with Tyre and got them balanced and aligned but the vibration still persist. again i am going to take the car to service center. has any one has faced this kind of issue.
one observation during alignment, i saw there was oil like thing on rear shock absorber. can leak in shock absorbers cause vibration?
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:51 pm | |
| are you talking about hard braking ???? it sounds like your ABS is coming on and yes that jumps up and down on the pedal | |
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AviRock Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 22 Age : 41 City, Country : Bangalore,India LOGAN Model : Verito D6 desiel ClubLogan Points : 26 Registration date : 2012-07-19
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:00 pm | |
| not only during hard braking, it also happens when we brake slight/smooth on high speed. the vibration is allover the car, the front portion shakes horribly and also there is vibration on pedal. people sitting in car can feel the vibration happening.
I have felt the ABS jumps on brake pedal, so this is not the same. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:32 pm | |
| Did they really renew the disks ? run your hand along them and feel for groves and bends (Take the front wheel off) and check the wheels are on tight !!!! then check the front shock absorbers for movement ! and oil leakage wheels normally vibrate on stopping due to Disk wear !! I think you call the disk a rotor ! What rotor have you got fitted ! solid one or one with holes ! Check which your car should have !! this is with Holes and this is like on my 1400 Logan without Holes | |
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