injector problem in mahindra logan diesel

Hi , I am facing problem with mahindra logan car since last 1 month. my vehical has travelled 23000KMs. Suddenly felt noise in Engine and has to repair engine.

After 1 month I am told to change injectors as they are now not working.

need to know from you, it is required to reprogram injectors as they are coded or final solution is replacement.

Pankaj

Is it still under Guarantee ?

Dear Sir,

Its out of Guarantee as I have missed one servicing which was due on 20000KM.

Rgds,

Pankaj

I am Stu !! Not Sir !
I would get another Garage to look at the car ! I can Believe "A" injector is not working but not 4 !
Also the read out from the OBC will tell the garage what is wrong .What is the problem with the car ? does it start ? does it have excessive BLACK smoke ?
can you tell us more please You say you Felt a noise ? in the engine what do you mean by Felt a noise ?
So its nice to be called Sir But you just call me Stu

Hi guyz am new to the club and also a proud owner of a black Logan dle.

I just bought it second hand. Everything seems to be fine the pick up ,engine noiseless but I get this black smoke every time i press on gas.
BUT I don't get it when i give gradual acceleration again when driving once the rpm hits 2+ it is so much that the bikers behind me give me a irritated look once they cross me it is so irritating i asked a roadside mechanic he said it may be the pump's nozzle problem.. I just don’t get it. If it so is it easily repairable ? How much would it cost me? Guyz please help

Black smoke can be a few things Blocked injector ! Dirty Airfilter ! and one of the main ones is wrong gear !!!! Dont try and Labor a Diesel it will give out Black Smoke
Go on the motorway and blow out the engine Give it a bit of Gas ! also try this at 50kmh put it in 5th and Give Gas !it will be Black ! now do the same in 3rd ! it will be clean (or should)

Thanks for the reply martin
Yeah i tried all those. The smoke is bit low when I ride with the correct gear shifts but initially at 1st gear i cant go even more than 10 - 15kmph.
By the time the needle crosses 15 I have a gust of smoke already behind. Thats really bad huh... Yeah about the air filter I gotta get that check too.
It may be the problem too and wish it is

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Thank you

Guyz wat is is the stock fuel pump for renault logan diesel in india...is it delphi...?

Dear all,
I'm also facing a problem since last 3-4 months.
As when the engine starts it doesn't gives me the problem for 10-15 kms. but when the engine gets hot & rpm around 2000 rpm i gets a high coolant temp symbol on my info panel. ( with or without a/c on). When the light comes on after approx 90 sec , the car stalls, but before stalling it makes something kit kit kit noise in the engine.
I've shown this to local mechanics also M&M service centre. They are unable to answer this & solve the problem. My local machanic is not even looking at the problem.
At last while coming back home yesteday same thing happened & I showed it to local mechanic near my house , he immediately told that this is fuel pump problem & needs service. But my question is when the problem is of fuel pump then why coolant overtempurature light is coming on. Also sometimes when in idle the the engines makes khrrrr sound for second as if its going to be stalled, but actually doesn't. This  happened quite a lot of time in front of that mechanic he confirmed me that the issue is of 1st Fuels injector & fuel pump. Told him all the fuel filters & air filters are recently replaced. Though he told me this is the problem & may cost you a lot of money around Rs, 25,000/-& if fuel pump is failed It will cost me Rs. 1,20,000/- to replace it.
I'm cracked now.... I don't know what to do ?
Can you guys please help me. As per mechanic, calibration & servicing of fuel pump to do from authorsied service centre of Bosch.
But I'm surprised whether the fuel pump is DELPHI or BOSCH.?

Stu , i'm really worries at this condition. what can i do dear....?

Vaibhav.

Well the fuel should not make the engine heat up so go to the car and take out the dipstick and look at the colour of the oil ! (diesel will be black so dont worry) Is it milky ? 
also look in your Water tank If cold take off the lid and look for sludge you should just see clean water or a clean antifreeze and water mix
If you have a Milky Dipstick or Sludge in the Water header tank I would be looking at the Cylinder head gasket slowly blowing and leaking water into the engine
you can also check the inside of the OIL FILLER CAP it should be Black (Diesel) if it sludgy then get the Headgasket tested Or just look round the Cylinder head for leaks

Sorry stu for late reply, due to some internet problems....
Actually no such problem was in car. Shwoed it at Hyundai service centre. He not only found out the problem but cleaered it also. My primary fuel filter in fuel tank was blocke , it was cleared 7 all is well now. like nothing happened ever...

Please note the location of the Diesel Filter http://www.motor-talk.de/videos/tutorial-schimbat-filtru-motorina-logan-v228190.html

martin245 wrote:

Please note the location of the Diesel Filter http://www.motor-talk.de/videos/tutorial-schimbat-filtru-motorina-logan-v228190.html

This is the exact one I was looking for. Thank you Stu !

Toyota has fuel filter placed at an accessible location that user themselves can open the drain screw easily. But this seems to be a little tough job with Logan.

MyCoolLogan wrote:

martin245 wrote:

Please note the location of the Diesel Filter http://www.motor-talk.de/videos/tutorial-schimbat-filtru-motorina-logan-v228190.html

This is the exact one I was looking for. Thank you Stu !

Toyota has fuel filter placed at an accessible location that user themselves can open the drain screw easily. But this seems to be a little tough job with Logan.

Agree. And so is the case with the headlamp bulb replacement as well.

Yes but look at the difference in the price of the car !

Last week i was on company trip with my car, on highway same problem of coolant temp light ( thermometer) started to come on dash, hence I pulled over & wait to one of the road side mechanic. He checked everything & said all are ok. Then i insisted him to drain the fuel filter, As he did it I saw there was something different liquid other than diesel, which was smelling like kerosene. When I did it & restarted my journey I didn't faced the same problem for next 5 hour drive. & from that day never yet.

Note: Fuel Filter was changed 2 month back only.

So, thus an adulterated diesel can do so much problem in our diesel engine? How to keep an check on it?
This fuel has cost me for around Rs 8,000/- in vain with Mahindra Global Gallerie..( Authorised service centre) Thane, for change of glow plugs etc. unrelated to main problem.
They couldn't even diagnose the problem, why coolant temp light is coming on frequently...!
One Service adviser also suggested that remapping of ECU is to be done.

So just a question in my mind that..
How remapping of the ECU is done. Can anybody suggest me that.? What is the cost for the same....
Vabs

I would say that it was petrol in your fuel. A mixture this would make your car overheat or have you filled it by mistake with petrol and realized and stopped???? ! Run that tank empty and "change" the filter for a new one and change your filling station.

vabs1981 wrote:

Last week i was on company trip with my car, on highway same problem of coolant temp light ( thermometer) started to come on dash, hence I pulled over & wait to one of the road side mechanic. He checked everything & said all are ok. Then i insisted him to drain the fuel filter, As he did it I saw there was something different liquid other than diesel, which was smelling like kerosene. When I did it & restarted my journey I didn't faced the same problem for next 5 hour drive. & from that day never yet.

Note: Fuel Filter was changed 2 month back only.

So, thus an adulterated diesel can do so much problem in our diesel engine? How to keep an check on it?
This fuel has cost me for around Rs 8,000/- in vain with Mahindra Global Gallerie..( Authorised service centre) Thane, for change of glow plugs etc. unrelated to main problem.
They couldn't even diagnose the problem, why coolant temp light is coming on frequently...!
One Service adviser also suggested that remapping of ECU is to be done.

So just a question in my mind that..
How remapping of the ECU is done. Can anybody suggest me that.? What is the cost for the same....
Vabs

Sir, do not touch your ECU and neither try to remap it and do something crazy. Just follow what Stuart has suggested, and change your fuel station. I can understand that fuel sold is pretty bad at times hence while on a long drive study the route and the fuel stations en route, take advice from knowledgeable sources who have traversed on the route and ask for fuel stops which you can judge while you drive. Hence plan accordingly. The best thing to do on a long drive is never allow your fuel tank to come below 60% of fuel the moment you sense the fuel level going down please tank up at the next fuel station but judge the fuel station before you tank up, I mean does it have a deserted look, are there vehicles taking in fuel, normally long haul trucks are a good indication for the fuel station to be reliable as the truckers are used to the route and they cannot afford to have adulterated fuel for their journey.

Dears,
I have used wynn's diesel injector cleaner yesterday in my full tank. The results are showing up, smoother engine idle & no hiccups or symbol light from yesterday night. Hope it shold have solve the problem if the injectors was blocked. Also cleaned up whole fuel tank with solid debris full of small jar. The car runs fine till now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed about how long it can be ....

Guys. Tell me if anybody has used fuel injector cleaner for their cars yet... As this wynn's diesel injector cleaner claims it cleans the fuel line, clogged injectors & fuel pump & pressure regulator..

Has anybody yet tried it......?

Wynns is a good firm

Where did you buy it from and how much did u pay for the same?

Hi...
 I bought it from Dombivli, Dist, Thane, maharashtra where i live & it was priced Rs. 280 for 320 ml bottle... Seems working fine.
But actually the problem with my car is completely different. I found out my Crank sensor is culprit for the Coolant  Temp heat symbol & subsequent engine stall. I read somewhere that if the crank sensor is not working properly, though your car will start , but it will give jerk when in idle. also due to incorrect pulse sent by crank sensor fuel supply is effected, resulting wrong signals to thermostat & water pump , which results in coolant temp symbol on dashboard. It all fits.. I have asked new crank sensor renault make from Opera house,Mumbai which is costing me Rs. 3200/- with that I 've also asked for Gear knob to replace broken one of mine & accessory belt so that it can be also be replaced as it looks weary visually.
The cost as below.......
1) Crank sensor for 1.5 dci K9k - Rs. 3200/-
2) Accessories Belt, Contitech make, 6PK1200.. Rs. 450/-
3) Gear Knob of old ZEN as Logan is in shortage  Rs.180/-

How people says logan spares are costly... It's only mahindra who are making the service part very very very costly.

I've also enquired about the timing belt kit with water pump, It's costing only Rs. 4250/- where as  in ASS they costs us for least Rs. 14,000/-to Rs. 19,000/-.

Thanks......

Vaibhav

Did your motor management light come (Orange light looks like an engine)on because it should normaly come on and register a fault for the garage to find The light will stay on until the garage turn it off again

I remember, 2-3 months ago, it blinked for say 8- 10 seconds, after that no continuous light came on....

They normally come on and stay on until turned off by the garage ! or until the code has been read and removed