Renault to open their own showrooms

"Renault is to set up dealerships on its own, perhaps the French automaker’s final act before terminating a 4-year-old alliance with Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M), the country’s top SUV maker. "

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News-By-Industry/Auto/Automobiles/Renault-to-set-up-own-dealership/articleshow/5525663.cms

yea..

http://clublogan.com/renault-to-go-solo-in-india/

What is the future of our Logan is it goes with mahindra or renault?

Quote :

MRPL has 100-odd dealerships, which sell their low-cost mid-size sedan, Logan, across the country. If Renault were to go independent, MRPL dealerships would continue to sell Logan, said two dealers, requesting anonymity.

We have joint workshops here in Germany !! All Dacia workshops are intregregated with a Renault workshop and it works very well and Renault have then more controll over everything

Video On this.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/video/cnbc-tv18-comments/renault-decidingindian-plans-futuremahindra-jv_438287.html

Sales and Service head moved already?

After this we can expect some aggressive marketing of Renault cars like the ones Volkswagen India been doing. Without marketing how can a brand, goor or bad survive? If the service also moves under Renault India we no longer will have to fight hard to find the right diagnostics for our Logan car.

Now, check this out...

Mumbai: Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M) and French carmaker Renault may not part ways, but instead come up with a restructuring plan for joint venture Mahindra Renault Pvt Ltd. “Talks are on and it’s possible a solution will be found in a month’s time,” Rajesh Jejurikar, chief of operations, automotive sector, M&M, told FE.

Confused media..

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/m&m-and-renault-may-save-marriage-with-stake-rejig/575197/

Thats it then it will be the same as Dacia and Renault and YOU will profit from this
Hey have you guys seen the new one from Dacia its the Dacia Duster 4X4

yeah rdr. these are two contradictory reports.

I have sent an email to customercare...... email id of both Mahindra Renault and Renault France too. got a reply from Mahindra customer care as given below. I have removed the sender's name. I will keep on asking them till they fed up and answer. Let's see what is the answer from Renault .

Dear Mr Khataokar


We are in receipt of your mail. We have forwarded this concern to our Mahindra Renault Team who will revert to you shortly

Thanks
________________
Customer Care

Coolest Dacia ever made!

Its a mean piece of equipment and it will sell thousands in Germany

So its now official about Renault to go on their own in India. Check todays TOI Business Page for complete details.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Renault-to-go-solo-launch-cars-sans-MM/articleshow/5554026.cms

Not sure what would be impact on existing Logan owners but now Renault seems in full mood after recent prediction about zooming Indian car market.

Yes good news but The Logan will Remain Mahindras Baby
Just like the Euro Logan belongs to Dacia

Expect chaos at service centers while this transformation takes place.

What will Mahindra's sales and service centers do with their stock's of spares etc?

Yup, like we posted on Clublogan.com http://clublogan.com/renault-to-go-solo-in-india/

@I doubt anything wrong is happening with the Logan, cause Renault will always be a part of the Logan either directly as Renault or through Mahindra Renault so i doubt they will let anything wrong happen especially after their plans to go BIG in India, they wouldn't a want bad name..

Ok. There is some news and speculation on this side of the Automotive fraternity. And it really doesn't sound that very exciting.

The image created by Renault in India is far from appreciable.
Logan by itself does not have any concerns apart from its looks. But, Renault India has failed to show commitment to the Indian customer, blame it on the delay in upgrades, launches, negotiations with Mahindra and all.

So, brand building will not be all that easy from here on.
And in the first place, they must stop killing the Logan by offering in variants like the Tourer (who ever buys a car to get 3 suitcases free!!! )

As far as service is concerned, I dont think Mahindr would want to let go of the opportunity here. The cities were Meru's & Easy Cabs ply, on an average, about 25-30 Logans come in for service.

Its been about a year and half that the Logans started off as taxis in Bangalore. Today, when i travel by them, I notice the odo's reading 200000km+. The only gripe I hear from drivers is about the uncertainity of parts availability in future owing to the current state of the JV.

MR needs to come out in the open. With cheifs from both sides and then make a commitment to the customer.

Mr. Goenka...... whatever happened to your "With You Hamesha"??

As per samuil and Vsuprak something is going wrong , we Logan owners /lovers should do something for the future of the vehicle. I have one idea came in my mind if it is wrong please forgive . Can we send a mass email( all members of this forum ) to MR jv and Reynold france .And CC to each and every concern authority of both the sides . Mass request will make some changes in both sides because we the owners of the logan are the future business route for renault .In india common man first ask about a particular vehicle to the owner itself. I also asked so many logan owners regarding the performance, service cost etc etc. So we should convince this to renault through the mail.If any one have any other ideas pls send.

A mail from the logan lovers will sure make the companies / JV feel special. But, as happens generally, companies will first cater to secure their vested interests.

Anything else is 2nd on their priorities.
Worth trying though. If not for a better line-up and commitment, atleast for some assurance on service and parts availability.

You Guys just do not understand Your Car is NOT a Renault Like mine is not a Renault
Yours is a Mahindra Logan and mine is a Dacia Logan ! Renault supply the parts and Mahindra and Dacia build them !!
I cannot take My Dacia to a Renault Garage and claim garantee I must take it to Dacia (Who are mostly in the same Garage as Renault )
Renault have there own part and Dacia too
Stu
Look at this Photo

Now stop worrying and be exited at this new car producer who will be amazing you with its cars and expertise in handling garage work
I suppose they will be sending there own people to learn these guys good customer relations .

Here's some more Positive News :-

Renault likely to take charge of Logan revival
Mahindra may divest stake in favour of French co.

Snapshot

The assembly line could be relocated from Nashik to the Renault-Nissan plant in Chennai

Renault may use its local design and engineering centre's expertise to trim the Logan's length

This will make it a small car, attracting lower excise and making it more affordable


Mumbai, Feb. 11

Mahindra Renault's future will be known by end-March 2010 when the partners are through with a restructuring exercise which will eventually benefit the Logan.

The no-frills sedan promised plenty when it was launched in India four years ago but lost its way halfway through its stint.

What then could be the trick to unscrambling the Logan dilemma which will leave everyone concerned in the project – the partners, dealers, suppliers, financers etc. – reasonably content? Would it result in Mahindra & Mahindra buying out Renault's 49 per cent stake or the other way around? Would M&M be a contract manufacturer for the Logan and continue to have it retailed in its dealerships along with its own Scorpio?

IPR for Logan

Sources say that the most likely solution will result in M&M divesting its 51 per cent stake in favour of Renault which, by the end of the day, holds the intellectual property rights for the Logan.

According to them, the assembly line could then be relocated from Nashik to the Renault-Nissan plant in Chennai and the car would eventually be sold in the French company's new chain of dealerships.

The only hitch here is that the Renault retail network would barely comprise 40 dealerships by end-2011 when the Fluence and Koleos models hit the roads. Today, the Logan is sold across the 100-and-odd outlets of M&M along with the Scorpio.

Fewer outlets, in contrast, could be a drawback but a better option both for the sedan and its new set of dealers who need more numbers than what the Fluence and Koleos can deliver. Renault also hopes to set up 40 outlets every year, thereafter, to house its future small car range.

Plans to Trim length

The other view within industry circles is that Renault will use its local design and engineering centre's expertise to trim the Logan's length to sub-four metres so that it qualifies as a small car in the Indian context. This would result in a lower excise levy of eight per cent, against the present 20 per cent, and make the car more affordable.

This is precisely what Tata Motors did with the Indigo two years ago and its CS (compact sedan) sibling has been doing brisk business since. From M&M's point of view, this could have been done with the Logan too except that it is a Renault product which does not give the Indian company the right to tamper with its length. A shorter Logan could give M&M the opportunity to prove a point that the car can do big numbers.

Incidentally, the French carmaker is of the view that the Logan could do with better styling, coupled with higher localisation, to attract the Indian buyer. To that extent, the price tag could be justified without changing the length.

Mahindra Renault has already recast its business plan internally to handle lower volumes (around 500 units a month) of the Logan and a whole lot of overheads relating to manpower, publicity, imports etc. have been pruned. This is the only way losses can be kept in check this fiscal, quite unlike 2008-09 when the figure was close to Rs 700 crore.

Complete Story:-
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/02/12/stories/2010021251900200.htm

@ Stu, Unlike there, Renault doesnt hold anything in Mahindra & Mahindra where as in Dacia is a Renault Subsidiary.. Thats where the difference, a Dacia Product is a Renault Product in the end cause its the same Family, not the case with Mahindra or say Mahindra Dealers especially with Low numbers and other hot cars like Scorpio and Xylo selling like Hot cakes!!