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PostSubject: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:35 pm

Hey All,

Its only 35000 kms total and today on the way from Gurgaon to Lucknow one of my tyre (fore right) got burst near Kanpur. That didnt have any bulging sign but this happened all of sudden after I felt my car was pulling right side. Now it has around 2 inch hole and become useless.

One other have sign of bulging and I feel can go off any time, so please suggest some decent priced (may be with tubes) goo quality shoes !!

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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:44 am

Dear Ezee,

Jk vectra is the OE tyre for our logan and veritos. We cannot blame the tyre because it is useing as OE in SX4 and ChevyCurze also. But one think the tyre is very hard and rought rolling resistance is very high . I am suggessing Michellin XM1 plus excellent tyre zero rolling resisitance and steering is very soft , tyre sound is also very low price is Rs 4500. Next Bridestone good tyre price is little bit less . MRF ZLO good tyre and price is very low around 3800.But overall driving and passanger comfort is best in Michellin . Pls report your experience and comparison with vectra those who change the tyres of logan
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:52 pm

Could be a one off case as reported by many car owners (not only Logan/Verito). My stock tires were changed at 45000km even though they would have lasted another 5k easily. And My spare was never used much. I've changed to BS Turanza (4 tires) and retained my old JK Vectra spare.

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http://mahindralogan.forumotion.com/t746-abs-ebd#11423
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:34 pm

Quoted Price:

Bridgestone Turanza ER 60 - Rs. 4550 / tyre
Potenza G3 - 4800 / tyre

MRF ZV2K - 3600 / tyre
MRF ZLO - 3800 / tyre

Michelin XM1+ at 4650 / tyre

Please suggest guys !!

Also do we have any option for with tube tyres?


Last edited by ezee on Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:10 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added Michelin XM1+ at 4650 / tyre)
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:07 pm

Bridgestone is my suggession
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:23 pm

Michelin XM1+ at 4650 / tyre

my usage is mainly limited to city with occassional long trips of around 500 - 600 kms with max speed of 140 kmph. What I am expecting is less cabin sound and light steering (most imp).
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:27 am

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My mindset is with Michellin XM1 Plus but you given us only 2 choice Bridgestone and Mrf. From this i suggest Bridgestone.

But now i know that you are going for Michellin. Best tyre without noice and increase the mileage due to low rolling resistance.

Dont think about the price think about the quality and our saftey .

My general advice is dont do cost cutting for tyre purchase .
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:10 am

Thomas Mathew wrote:
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My mindset is with Michellin XM1 Plus but you given us only 2 choice Bridgestone and Mrf. From this i suggest Bridgestone.

But now i know that you are going for Michellin. Best tyre without noice and increase the mileage due to low rolling resistance.

Dont think about the price think about the quality and our saftey .

My general advice is dont do cost cutting for tyre purchase .

I have mentioned above - Michelin XM1+ at 4650 / tyre
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:42 pm

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259582/tyre_test_2011.html

This is a Very good test
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:40 pm

Noticed one more bulging in stock JK's, so today immediately I went to Bridgstone Select Shop at M.M. Radials HUB, Chinhut, Lucknow and changed all four tyres to Turanza ER60.

Got a adjusted bill of Rs. 18400/- which includes tyres, nitrogen, balancing and alignment with camber settings.

Retained one good condition tyre as spare and got few bucks for old ones.

Have'nt driven much, so will share experience later.

Although after reading martins comment I realised, there was one more brand we forgot about - Goodyear
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:46 pm

Good stuff mate if one starts Bulging then the rest will go as well !Man they sound crappy tires .We have a new law over here regarding tires so all our OLD tires (stock) will more than likely find its way onto your Market ! They are good as well its Just that the EU wants to have little marks put on them ! Money making Sods We pay out of the nose to the EU
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:41 pm

While changing tyres, one thing I noticed that RIM's are DACIA RENAULT brand.

Michelin XM1+ I avoided due to some dealers reported about extra soft rubber, tends to easy cuts and damage on Indian raods after 25,000 kms.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:14 pm

If you look at 99% of your parts you will find Renault or Dacia
The Logan is based on the B platform used by the third generation Renault Clio, Renault Modus and Nissan Micra. It has 50% fewer parts than a high-end Renault vehicle and has a limited number of electronic devices. This makes the car cheaper to produce and easier and cheaper to repair.
Some parts are also much simpler than those of its competitors. For example, rear-view mirrors are symmetrical and can be used on either side of the car, the windshield is flatter than usual, and the dashboard is a single injection-molded piece.
The developers have taken into account several differences between road and climate conditions in developed and developing countries. The Logan suspension is soft and strong, and the chassis sits visibly higher than most other compact cars to help it negotiate dirt roads and potholes on ill-maintained asphalt roads. The engine is specially prepared to handle lower quality fuel, whereas the air conditioning is powerful enough to lower the temperature several degrees (temperatures above 40C are common in the Middle East and the Mediterranean Sea).
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:26 am

i'm logging into club logan after 8months, you can call me selfish because i was looking for some help and then suddenly remembered the good old forum. After this mahindra and renault debacle and logan getting converted to indian version Verito with local parts, I lost the whole interest in my car. Coming back to topic yesterday one of the rear jk tyre bursted in my car, just 29,000km. One more rear wheel had bulged 4 months back. Both of them happened during my travel from vellore to chennai which is just 135km, both the times i was unable to feel any low pressur or pulling of steering and finally tyre fully flat bulged and in fact this time had some burning smell from the tyre. Today i went to a dealer and got again the same jk as replacement Rs.4400 at vellore. just to keep all my 4 tyres with same brand and same tread pattern, my front two tyre are in a perfect condition never punctured still in reliable condition. Do i need to change all the 4 tyres. Kindly advice. Is is advisable to have different brand of tyres for front and rear... Or worst case can all the 4tyre be of a different brand and different tread pattern.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:28 am

Same tread different brand is OK
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Very difficult to get same tread pattern, almost impossible. Different brands may not be a good idea.
To give an example, earlier Michelin tyres used to be soft(not sure now). The JK tyre is hard and you won't feel the vehicle unstable when you turn at good speeds.
Presently I am using the Bridgestone Turanza ER60. For one, the ride comfort is definitely good on bad roads when compared to JK tyres. The braking was better on JK tyres though.
The next time I will most likely buy Michelin, just to experiment. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:24 pm

Just remembered, you get same pattern tread for front tyres of bikes and trucks/bus too. But I haven't come across that for cars, atleast its not there in the market here. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:54 pm

When I say same pattern I mean either Radial or cross ply
DO NOT MIX THEM !!!

http://www.oncourse4wd.com/4wd/4wd_crossply.asp
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:43 am

Got the point. But personally, I would stick to one brand for all four or five tyres.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Tue May 01, 2012 8:42 pm

So its been around 1500 KMs since I changed tyres to BS Turanza, somehow I am not very much impressed by its performance. Tyres are good and gives you silent feel but they give a bit heavier feel to overall handling.

Also on CC roads at speed over 100 it becomes a bit unstable if I compare to JKs, sometimes I get confused that I have flat tyres and stop to check if all is Ok .. sounds funny Smile

I also feel that 185/70/R14 are over sized tyres for a car like Logan, dont know if someone tested with Dzires size (165/80/R14) or Skoda Rapid's / Hyundai Verna's (175/70/R14). They can cetrainly give you light steering with increased power feeling due to less friction surface.

Next time I would try 175/70/R14.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Tue May 01, 2012 9:16 pm

I use 185s on my Logan ! What are your tyre Pressures ?
14 MPI (55 kW), 185/65 R 15 Front !,5 Bar rear 2.1 Bar
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PostSubject: Re: Unreliable JK Tyres - Burst and Bulging, Please suggest new?   Wed May 02, 2012 1:15 am

around 29 psi in city, 30 psi normal and 32 psi on long trips.
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