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PostSubject: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:29 pm

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I bought a Logan GLX1.4 in sept 2008. Just 57000 km and it started showing problems in starting.... sent my car for servicing to authorised mahindra ervice center. They could not detect the problem. sent it twice again. opened everything. Left my car there for three days.

Now I'm told that the self is faulty. They have to replace the self with a new one. Bill Rs. 10,000.

Anybody have an idea if the self is available in market and what would be the cost of getting it replaced from some mechanic outside.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:38 pm

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I bought a Logan GLX1.4 in sept 2008. Just 57000 km and it started showing problems in starting.... sent my car for servicing to authorised mahindra ervice center. They could not detect the problem. sent it twice again. opened everything. Left my car there for three days.

Now I'm told that the self is faulty. They have to replace the self with a new one. Bill Rs. 10,000.

Anybody have an idea if the self is available in market and what would be the cost of getting it replaced from some mechanic outside.

Thanks in advance.

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Hai Sandeep

Please go for a local electrician he can repair it at a very low cost .
Delhi is famous for all car repairs so why you should spend this much money.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:40 pm

ya sounds great. Do you know any good electrician...?

I'm a little concerned as I don't know if a car self is repairable in first place? and Logan is not as common as maruti cars...
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:53 pm

i dont no personally but go and meet few electricians and decide
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:02 pm

Guys what is a "SELF"
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:03 pm

Anyway they should do a read out of the OBC unit and it will tell them what is wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:53 pm

@ thomasmathew - Thanks. I'll try to find some mechanic who can fix it. I spoke to the guys at workshop to find out if they can repair it. He said no its not repairable.

I asked for the make of the self. He said its BOSHE or BOSCH...

Gotta find out its market price. Right now I'm getting my car back without fixing the problem. :-(
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:17 pm

can you please tell me which part you are talking about ! Do you mean the distributor ?
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:01 pm

He means the motor that cranks the engine to life.

@mediagurus - the self is repairable. Take it to a BOSCH dealer - he will advise you on the best course of action.


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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:26 pm

The starter Motor ?
Does it go Grrrrrrrrrrrrr or Click Click when you turn the Key ? does it turn to slow ?
You can fix these yourself by replacing the coals inside or byuy them online new they are cheap as nuts over here
http://www.hintsandthings.com/garage/diagnosis.htm

Look here its as cheap as Hell
http://www.ebay.de/itm/STARTER-RENAULT-MEGANE-2-3-1-4-1-6-16VAB-BJ-99-03-/390379546738?pt=DE_Autoteile&fits=Make%3ADacia|Model%3ALogan+MCV&hash=item5ae46f2872
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:21 pm

@ dtandon

thanks. Sounds great. I got it back from the workshop without getting self rplaced. I'll take it to a BOSCHE dealer....

there goes my weekend...

@ martin245 you know whenever I am standing on a red light and i switch off the engine but keep the ignition on... after a few minutes my car refuse to start... making grr sound.... i remove my car stereo and switch off indicator and then start again... then it works...
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:08 am

How old is the battery ? and does it start ok mornings ?
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:52 pm

@martin245

The battery is as old as my car. 2 and a half years. and they did their checkups on battery and informed all well with battery.

Yes its starts alright in the morning... even otherwise too. Just when engine is off n there is something running on battery like stereo, headlights, indicator or parking lights... after that when i start my car it refuse to start. I switch off the thing and it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:58 pm

Well that sounds like a week battery !
I am just going out as it Happens to buy a new battery because the weather here is so cold -13 and My 5 year old battery is showing signs of its age in the mornings

another thing you could try is this drive somewhere where you can stop the car without people all round you and leave you radio and stuff on lift up the hood and Tap the starter motor give it a GOOD tap I think also you may ahave a sticky solenoid this is the bit which pulls the cogs onto the flywheel and if it does not pull fully back they will grate
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:54 pm

Hi all

Just back from the mechanic. There was a loose connection at battery. Got it fixed. Now my car is not showing any problem. Will drive around the city for a day or two to confirm even more...

Mahindra servicing guys left a loose connection - i doubt intentionally.

@martin245 yes even my battery is a little weak now... will get it replaced sometime soon. But i'm so relieved there was no fault at SELF or alternator etc...

It was just a loose connection. I thin i saved my Rs. 10,000 that the authorised service station people asked for.

Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:04 pm

Thats good news BUT it just shows we as drivers should start the problem search at the beginning which is the battery terminals ! Sorry I did not say that anyway its brilliant news and you dont have to buy any parts bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:00 am

@ martin245 Thanks. Yes you are right.

A little update. I did a road testing yesterday. I stopped my engine at all red lights n kept my car stereo n indicators on to check if the problem is resolved. Out of around 25 times my car did not start only one time. Even earlier the problem was intermittent but now the frequency has reduced for sure.

Though m a little sad that the problem is still not resolved I think I somehow know the batter might be the culprit. Anyways I have decided to buy a new battery coming weekend as my existing one is weak now. I hope that will remove my problem forever. If not I'll have to do something about the SELF.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:36 pm

How many Amps does your Battery have ? I am going to buy a 55 the one I have now is a 45 and if you have that and a POWERFULL stereo then this could be the Problem and also short tours ! go for a two hour drive and charge the battery fully short drives take more out of the battery than goes back into it
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:43 pm

Hai

My advice is pls go for re-charging in a battery shop after that the amp has going down then pls change the battery new battery price is more than Rs 6000/-
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:51 pm

Why take it to a shop and PAY to have it charged when you can go for an enjoyable Drive ?
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:57 pm

I dont know about the battery amps... can find out if i look into it....

moreover I'd been using this car stereo for quite some time now. was fine earlier.

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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:58 pm

i drove for around a couple of hours last night. problem occurred only once.
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:11 pm

YES !! But if you drive at night you are using your lights and thus taking electricity away from the loading of the battery .do a day trip and no light and if you can just SING and keep that powerfull stereo off then you will have after two hours a fully charged Battery

and Like I said short Journeys are POISON to your Battery
the Amps are written normally on top of the Battery
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:13 pm

I still have not bought mine and I must now go outside and start my car and its
- 13 deg .I have a funny feeling it wont start its a knackered Battery 5 years old
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PostSubject: Re: Logan's self replacement   Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:02 am

Hello,

I have the exact same problem with the same car at around the same mileage (56000kms).

Can you please share your experience about what was wrong?

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