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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 18, 2009 12:15 am

Ok Gimme some time to find out n revert Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 18, 2009 8:14 pm

I took it to my service center today and the service advisor was not at all surprised about the tyre problems.

Only surprised that all 4 tyres have gone kaput at the same time!

He said, they should be able to replace it under warranty. I am taking the car back on thursday to let them do their stuff..
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 18, 2009 10:10 pm

till now havent seen my tyres in such details.....

will definately take it to nearby michelin autoserve to get them check
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Wed May 20, 2009 1:17 pm

Jk tyres vectra what happened to it ? ohh my god surely it affect the tyre business a lot .Pls try MRF,Apollo aclere.Good performance and milage.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Thu May 21, 2009 2:36 pm

The Mahindra service guys asked me to approach JK tyres directly (as it would take less time).

And the JK Tyres service engineer rejected the claim. He says the depressions are just the seam of the tyre where the inner layers (in the radial) overlap.

I'm waiting for his rejection report. The Mahindra service center guys seem to think that it is a problem definitely and want to take it up with Mahindra.

Will post the rejection report once I get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Thu May 21, 2009 4:17 pm

PHOTOS GUYS
Get some photos up of these tyres and also the make of them
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Thu May 21, 2009 5:08 pm

The make is JK Tyres (Vectra). These are the stock tyres on all the LOGANs in India.

I will put up photos soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri May 22, 2009 7:58 am

Here is a pic. I have circled the area where it is visible. look at the space between the 2 Xs. Like I said before, best way to check it is to gently rub that area with your fingers... Not very clear in the photos

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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri May 22, 2009 12:16 pm

Yes I can see the bulge the little rim round the bottom of the tread is definatly uneven
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri May 22, 2009 2:42 pm

Any idea if this is fairly normal with radials?

I want to be sure that it is actually a defect and will have safety and handling issues before I start pushing them hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri May 22, 2009 11:04 pm

It is a defect !!!! a photo from the side would be great then we could see how far it bulges out
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 25, 2009 12:40 pm

I got the rejection report and in the comments section it says:

Splice joint visible on sidewall of all tyre. In case of any manufacturing defect, tyre will be replaced under warranty policy

The worst part is that the report mentions the tyre model as "Tornado" whereas it is "Vectra" on all LOGANs. Just shows how competent the examiner from JK Tyres was. Going to definitely do something about this.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 25, 2009 7:05 pm

Spoke to my Technical Guys.
Tyre bulge is definitely a manufacturing defect.
There are safety related issues also. Especially on bad roads, cornering, braking. (in short all driving conditions).

If it is within warranty, manufacturer should oblige by replacing them (usually covered under tyre manufacturer's warranty).

In case warranty is expired, you can approach through the dealer or company directly, to take up your case. (Not the most convenient way as resulats a re hardly seen after the warranty expires)

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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 25, 2009 9:15 pm

As confirmed by Surya, tyre bulge is indeed a tyre defect. Write to the company and point out the discrepancies in the report with regard to the tyre model. Mark a copy to MahindraRenault as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Mon May 25, 2009 10:12 pm

Here in Germany the tyres are under warrenty BUT not from Dacia it is the firm who makes the tyres who have to cough up
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 2:41 am

thses bumps may be manufacturing defects but can also be caused by driving on very bad roads or contact with sharp objects! If such cuts are found around the bump, the manufacturer wont replace it!

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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 3:19 am

This is VERY true they can be caused by driving through potholes and up kerbstones ! You need to treat the tyres very carefully and dont slam the car into holes and up the kerbs
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 6:52 am

sAuMiL wrote:
thses bumps may be manufacturing defects but can also be caused by driving on very bad roads or contact with sharp objects! If such cuts are found around the bump, the manufacturer wont replace it!

The person who examined the tyres confirmed that it was not impact damage but it was due to the manufacturing. Thing is, he also says there are no issues with this since it is only the splice joint visible on the outside.

Definitely need to get a second opinion from a neutral person.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 10:58 am

Attaching a copy of the rejection report. Look at "Tornado" in the model column. "Tornado" is the stock tyre on swifts.

And anyone have info on some email address I can use to send this to JK Tyres? Can't find anything on their website. And is it ok to directly send this to the Mahindra-Renault CEO? Can't find any customer support email address for Mahindra-Renault either.

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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 2:11 pm

In most of these cases they blame the driver driving on bad roads recklessly as a reason. But you can still take this issue with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Tue May 26, 2009 7:18 pm

Also ask them to write M A H I N D R A and not M A H E N D R A .......... lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Wed May 27, 2009 11:48 pm

I know about one of my friend here at Durgapur (WB) who had the same bulging problem in all 4 tyres fitted originally with his SWIFT. He complained through Maruti dealer and all 4 tyres were replaced in 2 months.


NB: The problem manifests into jerky movements at high speeds (90+)
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Thu May 28, 2009 12:13 am

i got the tires checked today...


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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:19 pm

I got it verified by "XL Tyre Point" in Chennai. And they said this is not a problem.

Will not affect anything (handling or safety).

I've also done some 700km at upto 120kmph speeds with these tyres and don't feel any vibration or drag.
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PostSubject: Re: Problem with tyres: two tyres develop buldges   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:34 pm

i got all 4 tyres changed although the bulges were ot the main issue

i drove upto 29000 kms on stock tyres and they were getting blunt and very noisy

so thot of getting them changed and thus paid 3000 for all tyres and now i have all four new tyres.



if you doubt that some humming noise in your cabin has increased then it is because the rubber is getting off

get new tyres and enjoy a silent cabin



i will drive these tyres maybe upto 30,000 kms more and then who knows mayb papa gets me a new car Razz
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