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PostSubject: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:21 am

I am planning to change engine oil and dont want to go with Mahindra brand, can you please share your exp about type of engine oil used in Logan (Diesel) and which one would be best to use?

These days I see lot ads of Shell Helix Ultra, can we use this?
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:22 pm

A small question here.

Which engine oil do they use by default.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:20 pm

Over here its ELF
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:08 am

Here also its Elf Maximile Plus. 4.1 litre and price is Rs 697.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:34 pm

Elf (Total) Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:24 pm

Castrol is the best oil in the world for diesel cars it is castrol GTD.For petrol cars it Castrol GTX.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:37 am

ELF
Renault say Elf !!!!!!So its Elf
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:30 pm

There are differences in the way any oil within its segment is projected in market.

I guess for passenger cars any oil would do as far as it meets the minimum standards. Be it Castrol or Elf.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:52 pm

Hi,

I have been using Castrol GTX Magnatec for some time and found the same better than the engine oil provided by the workshop. Once you move from the Mahindra engine oil to Castrol you will feel a difference in the engine behavior. It becomes more refined and smooth. May be because GTX Magnatec is of 10W-40 grade whereas the Mahindra engine oil is 20W-40 grade. But the price of GTX magnatec is around Rs 950/- which is higher compared to the Mihindra one.

However, these are entirely my observations. Please validate yourself prior to using the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:40 pm

See from oil itself they are doing wrong.Oil is the blood of the engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:23 pm

So what should be appropriate for Logan Diesel 10w or 20w 40 grade?
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:25 pm

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I have been using Castrol GTX Magnatec for some time and found the same better than the engine oil provided by the workshop. Once you move from the Mahindra engine oil to Castrol you will feel a difference in the engine behavior. It becomes more refined and smooth. May be because GTX Magnatec is of 10W-40 grade whereas the Mahindra engine oil is 20W-40 grade. But the price of GTX magnatec is around Rs 950/- which is higher compared to the Mihindra one.

However, these are entirely my observations. Please validate yourself prior to using the same.

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Hello !!! How the hell can you say that you can feel better performance through different oil are you trying to say that Mahindra oil is full of bits ?
you are driving a small motor not a F1 Monster No I am sorry my friend but you will not feel a smoother ride from the new oil ...........Its all in the mind
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:31 pm

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So what should be appropriate for Logan Diesel 10w or 20w 40 grade?
Hi
The grades are for colder climates
Look Here

Oil Technology



In cold weather, it is beneficial to use an oil that has
good cold start flow properties as it will get to the parts of the engine
that need it far more quickly.

The "w" number which means winter is the key
here and the lower the better.

It may seem odd but a 15w or 20w will struggle to get
around the engine in very cold temps and I would strongly recommend a
10w or better still a 5w for better cold start performance in the winter.


90% of all engine wear occurs on cold start because the
oil gets thicker the colder it is - which causes engine wear.

These numbers explain it and bear in mind that the oil
will be the following thickness at 100degC (sae 40 = 14cst, sae 50 = 18cst
and sae 60 = 24cst)

At 0degC these are the numbers (thick!)

Grade 0C 10C 100C
0W/20 328.6cSt 180.8cSt 9cSt
5W/40 811.4cSt 421.4cSt 14cSt
10W/50 1039cSt 538.9cSt 18cSt
15W/50 1376cSt 674.7cSt 18cSt
20W/50 2305cSt 1015cSt 18cSt
I hope this helps you a bit
Today we have -13C and the car starts ok
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:24 am

Please stick with the oil they use at the authorized service center. Don't worry about the viscosity. They would have tested the oil thoroughly. 'Elf' is a good brand.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:04 pm

as rightly said its all in the mind, unless proven with statistical analysis.

i would say relieve yourselves from viscosity and fuild dynamics. leave it for the right people to take care of.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:16 pm

Hi Martin,

Thanks a lot for the information. I really appreciate and respect your knowledge in this regard.Compared to you, I am really a novice.

Whatever I have mentioned is not any fantasy of mine, these are observations of driving over a few thousand of Km's on both highway as well as in city.

As far as my knowledge goes, a lower 1st value indicates better oil flow. This is especially helpful in a cold morning start as it provides better engine protection. However, a better oil flow also ensures better fuel consumption. However, NA engines cannot use too thick oil and turbocharged engine cannot use too thin oil. So, there are different grades of oil for different types of engines.

A 20W-50 grade oil is normally mineral based, 10W-40 is semi synthetic based, whereas 5W-40 is fully synthetic based.Synthetic oils has the ability to remain stable at high temperatures and remain fluid at low temperatures.This provides optimum lubrication at extreme temperatures, reducing wear for a more cleaner engine. This is due to fact that they possess viscosity characteristics superior than those of a mineral oil and at the same time has molecular structure that meet and often exceeds' manufactures criteria for high performance cars.

As performance is not a copyright of F1 cars, so I think there is no harm in using a better engine oil for street cars for better performance and longer engine life.

Just for your information, the first Multi Grade engine oil to be introduced is Castrol GTX Magnatec.

Please accept my sincere apologies if I have offended you in any way. But I would also request you to please consider the fact that this is a public forum, so please be a bit more polite in your replies.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:45 am

I feel Castrol Magnatec Synthetic is better choice than Mahindra Maximile Ordinary 20w40. More on Castrol Magnatec is here - http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=8274016&contentId=7037323

Is any one using Magnatec? (It can be used for both petrol and diesel cars). Also what you use to flush engine oils?
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:59 am

If you want to flush clean an engine just fill with any cheapo oil and drive till warm and then drain and change the filter

I am not saying that Castrol is no good you guys I am just saying that the Elf which is recomended for the Logan is good enough .It does not bring anything to use a High Quality oil in a mid quality car .Unless of course you get Temp like we have been having and thats was last night in Germany -30 deg that is 10 W 40 oil
The main thing in upholding the life on your motor is this ! Change the oil at the correct Oil change times stated in your handbook and change the filter as well
this is something you can do yourself .....and while you are at it stick your finger in the filler plug of the Gearbox and check its ok as well
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:54 pm

Hi,

I have found good results with Castrol GTX Magnatec. I have also verified the same with some of my friends having Esteem and Accent and they have also confirmed the same. However, the life of GTX Magnatec is around 7000 Kms. So the replacement is relatively frequent. I have heard that Motul or Mobil 1 are better and at the same time it will last for 10000 to 15000 Kms. However, the cost of the same will be above Rs 2000/- whereas that for Magnatec is around Rs 950/- and the cost of oil filter is Rs 110/-. So you can evaluate and find out the better option. I have not used Motul or Mobil 1 as of now but I am planning to shift to the same shortly. Do try to get good information on the same before using it.

Regarding the engine flushing, the same can be done at the service center. They use a liquid for the same. The cost of the same will be around Rs 400/- as far as I can remember.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:10 pm

if one uses oil other than maximile is that covered under warranty.

service center refused saying, use at your own peril.
if somehting goes wrong they are not legally bound to perform the replace.

though i was never planning to go for my own oil, i just wanted to enquire.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:34 pm

It goes without saying that the warranty will be void if one uses an oil not recommended by the manufacturer.
As Stu mentioned earlier this car is not high on performance and as such any investment in oils costing more is not worth it. The oil that is recommended by the manufacturer will do its job. Yes, oil grades may vary across countries due to climate extremes.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:34 pm

Hi,

I have been using Castrol for quite some time and never had any issues with the warranty. In fact, at the time of service, I provide the service center guys with the engine oil myself. I don't think there should be any issues with the engine oil manufacturer, the only point being the grade of oil being used.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:07 pm

I dont think the oil will affect warrenty I have been misunderstood what I mean is additives like STP and such Your Oil is your choice
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ELF is the name of the Oil from Renault BUT do you know a Elf is a little green clad Man or woman found in Ireland
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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:56 pm

Hi,

I have once seem an FAQ type of handout in the service center regarding Logan where it was mentioned that it is not recommended to use any type of additives in petrol. Also they have recommended to use high octane fuels, not for better mileage but for better engine life.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Engine Oil for Logan?   Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:17 pm

I was talking about OIL additives
You should also use unleaded fuel because this is what this engine is made for
and if you have catalisator you MUST not you leaded fuel because after only 10km your Cat is wrecked


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