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PostSubject: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:53 pm

I have 1.4 GLX and want to have CNG fuel option too. Is it possible to have duel fuel arrangement?

If so, what are the drawbacks of this arrangement?
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:03 pm

This is not available as factory fitting.

However you can check for after market fittings if they can do something.

Drawback can be:
- Aesthetically is may not look good and rather awkward
- Cylinder will be in boot space all the times
- Waiting times for refuelling.
- Possibly lower pick up speed
- Possibly delayed startups
- 1.4 GLX engine from the outset not designed for CNG
- You may be the first logan 1.4 GLX owner with such arrangement that this forum might come across
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:13 pm

Watch out guys the old logan motor is not ready for gas they end up with burnt out valves

READ THIS IT READS A BIT SILLY AS I HAVE GOOGLED IT THROUGH TRANSLATOR
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:31 am

please tell me if anybody converted 1.4 petrol version to LPG.Again price of petrol increased so i am thinking about LPG. Please tell about the response of the engine and fuel average
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:57 am

Please make sure the 1400n engine which you have in India has the strengthened Valves
If not it will eat the Valve seats
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:05 am

@ Thomas, i suggest go for the company fitted CNG.. LPG stations are few and far. Thanks to a lot of public transport on CNG, you should get good availability. Also, i've heard that in a well fitted CNG kit, your mileage should also go up and there shouldnt be any loss of Power!!


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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:51 pm

@ PM & Thomas,

Apart from what is pointed out by Mir, I would recommend to have a word with the dealer of your area first, to know if any other car has got a CNG/LGP kit fitted.

While there are many kit providers who will do a decent job of fitting the kit, the Dealer possibly through his service centers will have a better idea of how the vehicle will respond to such kits in terms of wear/tear, serviceability etc.

It might give you some reasonable insights.


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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:27 pm

Renault warns of possible engine damage in Logan MCV and Sandero. Who drives fast heavy loads or long, should switch to gasoline.
LPG is more harmful than previously thought. Two weeks ago, AUTO BILD reported on possible engine damage to vehicles which were converted for gas operation. Renault now even warns against models that are sold ex works: Both the Dacia Sandero are LPG and the LPG Logan MCV According to the homepage "not for the full-load operation with LPG qualified". The importer should be confirmed to Auto Bild, that are fully extended at full speed drives on the highway, loaded or trailering down the slopes in the gasoline mode. Otherwise, the holder risking damage to the valve seats and the engine overheating. Renault also limited for these cars the warranty to three years, while there is an option for all other models in five years. The warning of their own product Renault hidden in a footnote.
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:27 pm

just checked the forum home site its got an article which says cng kits now available for 1.4 logans for around 50k.last time i checked with local cng kit dealers they said 1.4 is not compatible with cng.Did mahindra make any changes to the engine to make it compatible with cng?
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:24 pm

I have been saying this since God knows when The Cylinder Head on the Old 1400 will burn out
you also need a special additive
http://www.autoprofishop.de/product_info.php/language/en/info/p237_Ventilschutz-fuer-Gasmotoren.html
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:49 am

Do I go for CNG kit for my 2007 model Logan 1.4 petrol? Pl suggest.
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:12 am

2007 ? I would say NO or at least check to see if it can have Gas for your motor type ! 
a 2006 motor is not ready for Gas ! and really how old is your motor ! OK the car is 07 but the motor ?
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Hi Guys,

I have recently bought Logan 1.4 GLX petrol 2008 model.I would like to add alternate fuel as LPG.
Please suggest.

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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:58 pm

I would not bother !! Honest I own a 2007 Logan 14Mpi I get 7,2 ltrs per 100 km combined looking at a years use ! I don't go out and say hey today 9 ltrs and tomorrow 6 ltrs I only look at the combined and do not even reset the gauge leave well alone and buy yourself a nice stereo or some good tires with the money you save ! look how far you will have to drive to make gas pay ! and also it has to be bought fitted and serviced .................Its Not worth the bother in my eyes 
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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:23 pm

HI Martin,

thanks for your reply .

I normally travel more than 1000 KM per month,And i feel LPG will be better for me to save few on fuel.
my car model is GLX 1.4.My qustion LPG can be fitted on this model engine. Any other disadvantages of i t. Please share your thoughts on the same.


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PostSubject: Re: Dual fuel - CNG/ LPG   Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:33 pm

12000 km per year is not worth the effort ! what will you pay for the system and to be fitted
then what will you pay for 12000 km for Petrol and what will you pay for 12000 km using gas !dont forget you wilol not get the same fuel consumption using gas its less ! so and then add the difference in gas and Petrol to the price of buying and fitting and servicing and also the additive you will more than likely need and its not worth it !
and you will have to find out if the Valve seats are hardened ready for Gas ! Some are not on the Renault motor
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