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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:00 pm

God nayandeep start using the handbrake mate ......PLEASE
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:06 pm

Hand brakes are meant for these purposes.
>To hold the vehicle in position when you are gonna be stationary for some time.
>When you park the vehicle. thats why its even called as parking brake Smile
>Emergency braking when you dont want to lock your front wheels.

Of course, they can occasionally be used while drifting and the works, but then that is a different story altogether.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:33 pm

Well my qustion to all is why do we need handbreak in Diesel car which 1.5 (1500 cc) on very common place like basement parkings? Is our car really that much under powered which cant even take on inclines likes this ...... this is silly man (I will never expect such a situation with a 7 Lac Rs car).

And those who feel very confortable driving Diesel Logan, must give a try on any basement parking (normally malls or cinema halls or any biz building). Just stop your car in the middle and then try starting again without using handbreak etc, you will immediately feel the power lack in a 1500 cc car.

I figured out this incline (mall) issue long before with a horrifying situation where I had a car in front of me and a H. City in back of my - and God I was not able to pull it.

Why the hell they are selling a 1500 cc but only 65/160 (bhp/tor) when they could have achieved similar with a 1000 cc diesel engine like swift's.

Verna is also having a 1500 cc engine but see the power it has 110/236. Renault is trying to sell a stone age engine 48kw engine which even dont use any where in the world (I wish if I had these facts before buying this canister).
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:04 pm

Have been in such situations. In malls as well as hilly slopes.
Never felt so. Infact on the steepest incline on Nandi hills, where we stopped midway for a photo, there were no issues getting off again. And yeah! that was with 6 adults on board.

Of course i had to rev till about 2800 types. But then with 6 on board that was acceptable
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:02 pm

I believe this has nothing to do with engine power but with how you play with the clutch.

It is very easy to stall a petrol logan on an incline if we try to burn the clutch instead of using the handbreak.

Just because it is easier to use the clutch in other cars doesn't mean you are not damaging the clutch.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:13 pm

I believe some of you have no idea how to drive your cars
rdr is right what he says which proves he is one of those on this forum which can drive .and as for a Diesel being underpowered its just not true You have the gearbox to handle the situation .If you cannot handel a hillstart then this is just your fault My Wife can do them with a 14 petro 75 ps fully ;loaded to the hilt .You dont even need to rev the engine high .I just do not get it why you are having problems with the smallest thing of an hillstart EEZEY You need the handbrake to hold the car on the incline ...its not Rocket Science You just DO NOT STOP ON A HILL AND TRY AND PULL AWAY WITHOUT USING THE HANDBRAKE !!!!!sell your car mate and get an automatic this way you will have no problems with the clutch being heavy and get one with a 3000 cc engine
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http://www.johnfoote.co.uk/manouevres/hillstarts.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:07 pm

Sorry for the off-topic reply..

There seem to loads of people with clutch problems in the diesel logan.

What is the difference in the clutch between the petrol and diesel?

Check http://mahindralogan.forumotion.com/technical-f6/clutch-plate-gone-bad-t495.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:27 pm

dont know about diesel.

i am just back from short holiday.
from total of 225 kms of drive, i drove uphill 27 kms to mount abu with 5 adults and 1 child in car with A.C. on all the times.
i had to drive mostly on 3rd gear but the drive was extremely smooth without problems of any sort.

i did stop driving uphill to get some pics. getting back to motion from stationary was normal and smooth without any extra efforts.

rest 200 kms was national highway cruise @ 120 kms with A.C. all the times.

total distance including uphill drive was covered in around 3 and half hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:29 pm

rdr wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic reply..

There seem to loads of people with clutch problems in the diesel logan.

What is the difference in the clutch between the petrol and diesel?

I believe that the general consensus is that it is a lot lot harder to stall a diesel car than a petrol car because of the higher diesel torque at low rpms.

So, people having stalling/other problems with diesel logans are doing something VERY wrong or there are other factors in play too.

So, I do want to know what the physical difference between the clutches in a diesel and petrol logan is.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:49 pm

Okay, if one is expecting the car to move easily just by releasing the clutch and not increasing the accelerator accordingly on an incline, it indicates the persons inexperience with regard to tackling such a terrain and vehicle operation knowledge. There is no car which can just move at idling speed by releasing the clutch while on an incline. May be some 4X4 but that too is doubtful.
The Diesel Logan has a fine engine. It is adequately powered for our roads. Delivers excellent fuel average. Is solidly built. Has decent features. Clutch may be hard but that is individual opinion, not collective. Ask Hyundai and Suzuki for a 5 year anti perforation warranty and also be careful while you kiss the cars from them lest you leave a dent on the car.
Please use handbrake while in stop and go traffic and also if not comfortable with releasing the clutch while on inclines. Never drive downhill with your engine turned off.
The power output on that 1.5DCI can go upto 106 hp and 240nm. As mentioned in an earlier post fuel quality has a big role to play when the power output of the vehicle is to be considered.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:24 pm

@RajeshNamb
+1 on that.
Completely agree with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Give this a try   Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:04 am

Always use handbrake and release slowly as you release clutch and press the accelerator pedal.

Don't do a sudden shift of the right foot from brake pedal to gunning the accelerator, because you are always going to leave that half second gap open for the vehicle to slide back, or if you release the clutch too soon, you willl certainly have a engine stall.

Its not for anything but safety. Just think of that poor guy stuck behind you on the incline!
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