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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:20 pm

i don't have DIS sysytem in my care. i always take average by tank full method. for 273 kms it took 15 lts. comes to 18.2kmpl. my knfilter was a bit clogged on which i drived around 80 kms. then i removed the knfilter for cleaning , replaced with the renault filter and drived for rest 200 odd kms. can rmoval of knfilter be the cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:07 pm

273 / 15 * 100 = 5.494505495 Ltrs per100 km which is OK in my book
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:53 pm

i used to cover 100km in 3.571428571 lts consistently after the 1st service of the car. once even got 100km in 3.333333333 lts. any way now i have replaced the filter with knfilter. will check the average again.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:00 pm

For those who think Renault says ELF and Maximile is ELF cobrand then sorry guys All MAXIMILE engine oils are made by INDIAN OIL and they are pure DESI.

Also you cant bring your own oil (eg castrol, mobile 1 etc) to service center becuase they simply refuse to use that and each time you change oil you need to change oil filter as well, which will be available at service centers only.

I have also noticed that engine oil and fuel filters used for Logan in service centers are not brand new but they use recycled old ones which they collect each time from your cars.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:08 pm

If they are recycled, I would kill them when I go there next time..

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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:57 pm

I checked mine and it doesnt look new from any angle, as the alluminium casing has lot of makrs and renault name was almost faded, clearly shows a recycled one and they charge 1400 for fuel filter.

I would suggest all to retain removed fule and engine oil filter.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:14 am

I always take back any old part that is changed.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:08 am

@Ezee Why didnt you take it up with the service center??
@Nayan, i do too..

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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:09 pm

Since I have shifted to Lucknow, So this time I serviced my car at a new service center in Lucknow, UP and I tell you they didnt know much about technicals, I spent whole day over there and most of the time I had to tell them to do this and that.

Changed disc breakpads - cost 1400

No major spare parts available including a simple clutch wire. Also I was surprised to see as they dont charge 1000 as service labour but different charges for different work, which makes even more including separate for washing etc.

Total Service Cost was about 5200/-

I cant understand why companies like Mahindra is not serious about quality of job done and customer satisfaction, from the very begining they are nailing Logan coffin slowly, continues even after they are 100% owner this model.

@nayan & saumil - spares I do take but did you ever try to take those filters with you?
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:48 am

What is the engine oil to be used in Logan diesel? I mean the specification? is it better to change it at Mahindra service center or outside? or Can I do it at home?

My engine feels rough and it is currently 11200 kms on the odo and there is 2.5 months before my third free service. Second service was done @ 6000 kms or so..
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:43 pm

maximile is the engine oil used for logan and vertios but i am not impressed with that oil if you can used other oil better to go for castrol,mobil,Helix etc . better than maximile.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:17 pm

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What is the engine oil to be used in Logan diesel? I mean the specification? is it better to change it at Mahindra service center or outside? or Can I do it at home?

My engine feels rough and it is currently 11200 kms on the odo and there is 2.5 months before my third free service. Second service was done @ 6000 kms or so..

You can avail the free service earlier than the schedule. Or go to the authorized service station to have the engine checked for the roughness you feel.
typically you would want to
1) clean the air filter
2) inspect /drain water from the diesel filter element
3) change engine oil and filter
4) clean the AC condenser fins
5) lubricate the handbrake cable
6) check all the wheels , brakes for free rotation.
7) check the cat con / silencer for excessive carbon - clean.
mostly this would help.
As far as oil is concerned , if u dont want to stick with the mahindra maximile you can use any API CH + AND above rated oil ( CI / CJ ) 15 W - 40 grade.
1) Shell Helix HX6
2) sERVO Futura D
3) mOBIL DELVAC mx / super 1300
4) Castrol GTX diesel


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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:05 pm

Use the Mahindra Maximile. The oil is from ELF. I would not think twice about buying ELF. Its a good brand. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:23 pm

RajeshNamb wrote:
Use the Mahindra Maximile. The oil is from ELF. I would not think twice about buying ELF. Its a good brand. Smile

I believe its 'TOTAL' now. Elf brand is available in cf4 grade and is also used in authorized service stations. damn good oil co.. Used it extensively in my accent ( elf sporti ) it was called if i am not mistaken.
Now retails under TOTAL , FRance banner. Elf almost vanished from retail stores in mumbai.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:38 pm

Hi Stu,

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check out the difference in available options in india. all of 4 numbers


India is totally castrolled. And mobilled to some extent Smile
I personally have stayed off this herd mentality. But people swear by it just because their favourite cricketer endorses it. It doesnt matter to people that they are paying premium for some folk's advertising budgets and fat bottomlines Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:58 am

Yes, its TOTAL. A good brand again. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:48 am

@Ezee - I just bought a set of brake pads for my Logan in Lucknow yesterday for Rs 750. Changed them myself. You mentioned a price of Rs 1400 for the same.

The diesel filter was Rs 1000 and the Oil filter was Rs 180. And yes - genuine spares are available in the open market. You don't need to buy them from the A.S.S.

Where do you get your car serviced - do re-look the sourcing for the parts. You seem to be paying too much.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:28 pm

The Chinese have flooded the Market with cheap (inferior) parts and Brake pads are also one of them ! They look so real but beware of Brake fade !

http://www.alibaba.com/products/dacia_logan_parts/CN------------------Y.html
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:46 pm

martin245 wrote:
The Chinese have flooded the Market with cheap (inferior) parts and Brake pads are also one of them ! They look so real but beware of Brake fade !

http://www.alibaba.com/products/dacia_logan_parts/CN------------------Y.html

cheap inferior or downright duplicate ?.
see i got my logan rims shimmed and changed my original pads ( when they had worn out ) to bosch made ones. my braking immediately regressed and it started feeling downright scary as these new pads were not offering any bite whatsoever. ran on these for some time and then repalced the pads with FBX made ones. braking improved immediately.
the bosch ones were not wearing out at all. hardly any carbon after a month of use .
would this be a case of duplicate pads ?
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:59 pm

They even copy the boxes and Print Renault on the parts ....BEWARE !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:39 pm

Yes it is correct. AS per the service book, the period for changing the engine oil is 5000 kms.But the service personnel saying that it is 10000 kms that's what just contradictory to what written in the service book.

During last service, I changed the engine oil and they charged @Rs.1000 per liter. I had spent RS.4000 for the engine oil only. It is said to be synthetic oil. But I haven't noticed any changes in engine performance. The service person said that then the engine oil changing period is 30000 kms or 18 months which ever is earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:58 pm

There is always a big debate about synthetic and mineral oils. Personally i have not noticed any change in the engine performance because of synthetic oil. Maybe it works silently without any noticable change Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Engine Oil   Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:19 pm

I doubt you will have ANY change in Performance but the engine will be better lubricated at all Temperatures with Synthetic Oil
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