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+14D a n dtandon rdr adamkathy23 Mir... Dushie kaustuv123 vsuprak sAuMiL martin245 HITESH RajeshNamb dhanushan sabrish 18 posters |
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Mir... Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 659 Age : 47 City, Country : Ahmedabad, Gujarat LOGAN Model : 1.4 GLX ClubLogan Points : 624 Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:33 pm | |
| @dushie: did you face problems in braking while driving?? i mean brake failing or something of that sort... | |
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Dushie Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 250 Age : 46 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLE ClubLogan Points : 104 Registration date : 2008-01-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:46 pm | |
| Nope, didn't face any problems, it was fine, both the times the service center guys checked the vehicle carefully for any leakage but there was none, even they were surprised | |
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adamkathy23 Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 200 Age : 43 City, Country : New Delhi LOGAN Model : GLE 1.4 ClubLogan Points : 205 Registration date : 2008-06-11
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:06 pm | |
| My logan has done about 13000kms and for the last 1000kms there is a strange noice, like ramdom dhak dhak sounds......very irritating.... Besides, the brakes seem to have lost the bite....It doesnt slow down with half push and comes to an immediate halt after that.......Very scary.....I shall be getting it checked and cleaned this weekend......hopefully it doesnt need a pad change........ N | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:06 pm | |
| Take off the back wheels and check for Oil leakage in the Brake drums This is important so do it today your oil can only go down when it is either leaking or the Pads are so far down but with 20000 you are ok Mmmmm we are talking miles here arnt we ? Ok If no Oil is on the brake drums the Pads at the front are worn out | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:52 pm | |
| - vsuprak wrote:
- I agree with Hitesh.
My car's done 20000+ till now and i also havent replaced my brake pads so far. If you highlight it as a concern, they are probably going to use that as a reason for the change. Ok, my cars just gone in for the free service campaign organised by my dealer. Since about last 1000kms there was a squealing noise from the front brakes, when applied at speeds below 5kmph. Service advisor told me that the pads will need replacement as thay are wornout at the edges, something which is likely to happen in city driving. When I asked him why it needs to be changed and not just cleaned, he said, "Sir, the average change time for brake pads in bangalore city is seento be @ 18000kms. If the noise were to be ignore till the next service, given the type of city driving we have, it could affect hte disc itself, which would set me back a cool 4000/-. He actually got one of the brake pads removed to confirm that there indeed was wear-out at the edges. Since my next service comes up only after another 5000 kms or 6 months minimum, i decided to get them changed. So a set of 4 pads was what it was going to cost me (Rs. 1800/-) | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:05 pm | |
| can you make a side view off this pad please | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:23 pm | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:35 pm | |
| That looks ok to me I have just googled this info -------------------------------------------------- It’s important to note that there are two ways to determine whether or not the pads will need replacing:
The first is visually. If you see that the depth of the pad is less that 1/4 inch. You need to replace it, and soon! If you see that it’s less than 1/8 inch, there isn’t any time to waste as you are getting really close on damaging the rotor. You need to then do it ASAP! It’s not the same on every vehicle, but use it to help you along.
The second is by ear. If you are hearing a screeching sound when you put your foot on the break. Not good. You are overdue for a reline. But, if it sounds more like scraping on metal, then I’m afraid you have damaged your [color:45c1=#000088 !important][color:45c1=#000088 !important]rotors and you need to fix the brakes immediately otherwise you could cause major damage.
Changing your brake pads too soon is much better than changing them too late. That way you will avoid more expensive repairs as well as unsafe driving. Yours look like you have a full half inch ! Cheep pads make noises and every morning after rain or Dew the disks will have rust on them and you will hear this getting rubbed off for the first few miles | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:41 pm | |
| Here is a good idea of good and worn now look at the good and look at YOURS | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:57 pm | |
| I just saw one of the pads in my replaced set and it looks like this. The other 3 pads seem to be ok. Service advisor says that the vehicle would come in for service after 10000kms again and the pads had about 1000 kms or so left in them. Hence he suggested to replace them. Also, the squealing noise was coming fromthe brakes, so I went in for the replacement. I havent thrown away my pads yed. keeping them. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:13 pm | |
| On the Logan Most noise from the brakes comes from behind http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdaciafreunde-nrw.foren-city.de%2Ftopic%2C450%2C-quietschende-bremse-hinten.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 It will say log in so reg with this group they are brilliant | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:31 pm | |
| Thanks Stu, The above experience has proved to be of great value. Am keeoing my brake pads for now. just in case a single one wears out in the meantime. | |
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Dushie Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 250 Age : 46 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLE ClubLogan Points : 104 Registration date : 2008-01-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:32 pm | |
| No sounds or issues with the break pads as of now, but as suggested by Stu and seen in pictures of the break pads, guess i will get it checked up in case i find any issues or sounds, also i feel the cost of the break pads Rs 1800 is not much. vsuprak - how much did the charge for labor or is it included in the Rs1800. | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:55 pm | |
| Yes Dushie. It is inclusive of the labour charges
A total expense of 1832/- Not very expensive i guess, given the fact that ive used my car for almost 2 yrs now and around 22000 kms, 80% city and 20% highways approx | |
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Dushie Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 250 Age : 46 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLE ClubLogan Points : 104 Registration date : 2008-01-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:00 pm | |
| - vsuprak wrote:
- Yes Dushie.
It is inclusive of the labour charges
A total expense of 1832/- Not very expensive i guess, given the fact that ive used my car for almost 2 yrs now and around 22000 kms, 80% city and 20% highways approx Yes i agree with you on the same, 2 years of driving and covering that much distance, the cost is negligible compared to safety, security of individual and maintenance of the vehicle. | |
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sAuMiL Admin
Number of posts : 1680 Age : 41 City, Country : Mumbai, India LOGAN Model : Logan DLE Sahara Beige ClubLogan Points : 881 Registration date : 2008-01-01
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:29 pm | |
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rdr Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 357 Age : 45 City, Country : Chennai, India LOGAN Model : Mahindra Logan Edge 1.6 GLSx ABS ClubLogan Points : 302 Registration date : 2008-08-08
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:09 pm | |
| I can't make out what they are pointing at. Do you have shuddering while braking at high speeds? Disks have changed shape? | |
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sAuMiL Admin
Number of posts : 1680 Age : 41 City, Country : Mumbai, India LOGAN Model : Logan DLE Sahara Beige ClubLogan Points : 881 Registration date : 2008-01-01
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:12 pm | |
| They are pointing out to the damage caused to the disc. I cant make out either. | |
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HITESH Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 460 Age : 35 City, Country : ludhiana,punjab.india. LOGAN Model : logan dls ClubLogan Points : 260 Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:37 pm | |
| i hv to go in for service ..... have done 39000 kms and will go at 40000 i hope my cars brakes are alrite. | |
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kaustuv123 Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 98 Age : 45 City, Country : Kolkata, India LOGAN Model : GLX1.6 ClubLogan Points : 115 Registration date : 2009-03-02
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:48 pm | |
| Hi,
I have changed my brake pads only at 33K. The disc were not damaged. The driving condition at Kolkata and Mumbai are almost same. Also, from the photos attached, the brake disc doesn't seems to damaged to an extent that will require replacement. I would recommend that you get your car checked from another workshop and then go for the change. The chances of the brake disc getting damaged is remote.
Regards, Kaustuv. | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:55 pm | |
| I got mine replaced at 20000Kms. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:12 pm | |
| Those Pads are not badly worn in fact they have another 10000 km on them and the disk is OK that ridge on the disk is normal it comes on all disks they are trying to take you to the cleaners mate I am now at 54000 kms and they have not been changed yet I go this month for my service so I expect to buy new Pads But not Disks | |
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sAuMiL Admin
Number of posts : 1680 Age : 41 City, Country : Mumbai, India LOGAN Model : Logan DLE Sahara Beige ClubLogan Points : 881 Registration date : 2008-01-01
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:39 pm | |
| This is sad! The pads and the disks are replaced now. The bill comes to about 9000 Will update you guys. I had already given him a go ahead trusting the guy. He said the damage was there and SHOULD have been replaced. my bad! Neways! | |
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dtandon Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 77 Age : 40 City, Country : Bangalore/Lucknow LOGAN Model : DLS (1.5 Diesel) ClubLogan Points : 51 Registration date : 2009-01-08
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:10 pm | |
| You should not touch the disks. They should only be replaced once the thickness goes below a certain minimum (specified in the service manual) or if they are wrapped (brake pedal jumps and vibrates during braking).
There are no other reasons for replacing the disks - circumferential groves due to normal wear and tear are ok and don't cause any problems. | |
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rdr Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 357 Age : 45 City, Country : Chennai, India LOGAN Model : Mahindra Logan Edge 1.6 GLSx ABS ClubLogan Points : 302 Registration date : 2008-08-08
| Subject: Re: BRAKE PAD FAULTY Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:19 pm | |
| - sAuMiL wrote:
- This is sad! The pads and the disks are replaced now. The bill comes to about 9000
Will update you guys. I had already given him a go ahead trusting the guy. He said the damage was there and SHOULD have been replaced. my bad! Neways! Examine the old disks? Can you ask them to describe what the exact problem was? | |
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