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Are you Satisfied with Your Logan | Yes | | 83% | [ 25 ] | No | | 13% | [ 4 ] | Dont Know | | 3% | [ 1 ] |
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ezee Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 279 Age : 47 City, Country : Gurgaon LOGAN Model : DLS 2007 ClubLogan Points : 250 Registration date : 2008-02-15
| Subject: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:40 pm | |
| I love my car and infact I wrote a lot good stuff about it, posted comments, suggested people to buy and atlast love to drive but without its clutch. Yes its true, Its affecting me because I developed a regular knee pain (only in left leg). I wrote a blog and sent a mail as well (once more) to Mahindra CC. But I am sure nothing will happen. Also in the other Ramanian forum they confirmed that their Logan has a haydraulic clutch (more frustrating for me) (http://www.daciaclub.ro/Clutch-Type-in-Logan-1-5-DCi-t144404.html) But somewhere, somehow most of the peole complaint only about its clutch. PS: Saumil I am posting links here just for clarification purpose, If you feel unappropriate please delete them | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:06 pm | |
| The moment I felt knee pain, I realised that my seating was not right. I tried shifting the seat front and back and soon enough came upon the right distance. I haven't experienced any knee pain since. I travel 75kms-80kms commuting between office and home. I do agree the clutch is a bit hard. | |
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ezee Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 279 Age : 47 City, Country : Gurgaon LOGAN Model : DLS 2007 ClubLogan Points : 250 Registration date : 2008-02-15
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:48 pm | |
| Rajesh, I tell you these were my earlier symptoms of knee pain - I did same as you mentioned, adjusted distance, height everything I can but now what I feel I shared with you guys. I know lot of things cause discomfort in your daily life, also pain and fitness can be managed but I am disappointed towards M&R guys thinks a buyer paying 7.1 Lakhs cant pay 7.2 with hydraulic clutch - rediculous. | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:50 pm | |
| You have a point, no doubt. | |
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ezee Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 279 Age : 47 City, Country : Gurgaon LOGAN Model : DLS 2007 ClubLogan Points : 250 Registration date : 2008-02-15
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Fri May 08, 2009 9:48 pm | |
| so the update is - they have changed the clutch wire and yes now its softer than earlier, but the problem is, as time goes that wire catches dirt and grease and becomes harder (just like a bike clutch). I checked wire which they inserted and its same as a bikes clutch wire (a bit thicker) and open at one end. I wonder if anyone can develop some solution for it. Do you guys know what sort of clutch technology Maruti Swift Dzire has? (because I drove Dzire and I tell you its like breeze in terms of clutch and low power bands) | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sat May 09, 2009 12:44 am | |
| I have just been thinking about this pain .!!!! I dont think it is a clutch problem .I think it is due to the short seat that you sit on MEANING the seat is a little bit shorter than other seats and you put pressure on the top inside of your leg cutting off a bit of blood supply My wife gets this bad as passenger and I have also had it on a long journey .I hope you understand what I mean Indtead of you sitting on the seat and your legs drop down direct at the end of the seat you actualy have about 3inches space between the front of the seat and your legs causing a cut in circulation | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sat May 09, 2009 12:08 pm | |
| It is the seating posture. If I shift my seat a little closure I end up developing the pain. Yes, the clutch will definitely get harder as the days go by. Your only solution is adopting different seating positions. The clutch in the Hyundai Verna is also very 'soft'. If you use the same approach with regard to hard clutch then the drivers of heavy vehicles would have a permanant limp while walking. I am sure the clutch in buses and lorries are definitely much harder when complared to the Logan. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sat May 09, 2009 12:10 pm | |
| Yes the clutches on lorrys and larger vehicles are harder BUT we sit more upright than in a car so we have more leverage on the pedal | |
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ajajaj Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 38 Age : 35 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : 1.6 gls ClubLogan Points : 28 Registration date : 2009-01-11
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sat May 09, 2009 11:02 pm | |
| Yes i too agree with Stu....i too felt this prob 3-4 times..but i jus ignored it. Thought it's not worth making a fuss about...moreover 'adjusting' comes easy to us Indians. I only wonder if there 's a solution to this other than adjusting postures..Alright i better not crib on this further or else il end up getting it good from dad ! lol... | |
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ezee Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 279 Age : 47 City, Country : Gurgaon LOGAN Model : DLS 2007 ClubLogan Points : 250 Registration date : 2008-02-15
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sun May 10, 2009 5:45 pm | |
| @ajajaj - thats exactly what Mahindra Renault want Try driving Swift Dzire and then compare, also regarding posture .... please read my first two posts, as I have already tried every combination possible. Also regarding buses and lorries - they all have hydraulic clutch these days and I bet they are much softer than Logan (except old age trucks). Try driving Scorpio (another from Mahindra) is far better than Logan. To all Logan owners - The problem is problem and I cant just ignore because I own Logan and I cant listen bad words. Its the purpose of this forum, to raise your voice loud and clear, so they stand some where. | |
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ezee Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 279 Age : 47 City, Country : Gurgaon LOGAN Model : DLS 2007 ClubLogan Points : 250 Registration date : 2008-02-15
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sun May 10, 2009 6:01 pm | |
| Also I talked to one Head Engineer Logan at service center and we talked about Logan problems. He accepted humbly that only few problems hurting sales of Logan in India, like: - Clutch Problem - Interiors quality - Some odd looking things like GAP between bumper and body (which helps make it look ugly) - Some others like position of switches etc. I agree that we all can manage with these but not the prospective buyer, which was accepted by him. Last month only 516 Logans sold India wide and this number is slowly getting down. As per engineer the outcome was - they sent a list of problems and had meetings with Renault for Logan, but Renault did not agree to modify these by simply saying that Logan is a big hit in countries like Romania and we will make it a hit in India as well. So by looking these sales figures it will never be a hit, but can be story like Fiat. "Ye India Hai Bhai - Romania Nahi" | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sun May 10, 2009 9:26 pm | |
| Didnt you guys take your cars for a road test before you bought them | |
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nilanjan Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 169 Age : 40 City, Country : Kolkata, India LOGAN Model : 1.5 DLX ClubLogan Points : 90 Registration date : 2009-02-21
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Sun May 10, 2009 11:29 pm | |
| yes, but the road test car or the demo car is well tuned to give more mileage and give better performance than the rest...... | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 12:13 am | |
| Oh come on pull the other one !! A lot of you think you are put in this world to be ripped off !!! What do you think? That you will get a special Logan to do a test drive in ? Come on Special Clutch less fuel more Power What will you say next ? | |
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nilanjan Newbie Loganizer!
Number of posts : 169 Age : 40 City, Country : Kolkata, India LOGAN Model : 1.5 DLX ClubLogan Points : 90 Registration date : 2009-02-21
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 2:03 am | |
| no the thing is the dealer will have a demo car for the test drive and that will not be the one you are going to purchase and if you select a car from the showroom for test drive, either you have to buy that car or you will not be allowed to take test drive on that car........that's the way it goes in India... though i got a new one from the showroom, since the demo car was off for servicing... but yes, i am very much satisfied with my logan, atleast till now... | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 2:14 am | |
| Do you realy think that a firm as big as Renault would let Mahindra rip off its customers this way .It is more than the few pounds it saves is worth | |
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tomlai Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 380 Age : 58 City, Country : Kolkata LOGAN Model : Logan GLE 1.4 ClubLogan Points : 152 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 4:12 am | |
| I don't find the clutch that hard, although I do find its motion a little different from the MarutiSuzuki ones I had driven, and the whole foot needs to be used to press the clutch rather than using the tip of the foot only. The depression in the carpet around the clutch pedal makes it necessary to press down with the tip of the foot in a straight line rather than being able to pivot the left foot keeping heel fixed in one place, which is possible to do so with the brake and accelerator pedals on Logan. Also I find that due to my foot size (10), if I don't keep adjusting my left foot, the tip of my shoe will touch the nut-bolt of the steering column joint which is just above the clutch pedal. BTW the Scorpio clutch was a bit lighter than Logan and steering much lighter | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| - tomlai wrote:
- ...Also I find that due to my foot size (10), if I don't keep adjusting my left foot, the tip of my shoe will touch the nut-bolt of the steering column joint which is just above the clutch pedal...
Yup. Need to keep shifting the foot position on the clutch pedal (size 10) to prevent gradual movement (read slipping) towards the steering nut/bolt column.Not much of a problem. Got used to it now. | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 1:58 pm | |
| I dont have my foot on the clutch long enough to have to adjust my foots position | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 2:05 pm | |
| Darn! Indian traffic conditions. Gotta fall in love with the clutch. Else difficult to survive | |
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martin245 Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 2502 Age : 71 City, Country : Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model : DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red ClubLogan Points : 2090 Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 2:07 pm | |
| I have a little trick for you guys that live in a congested area .Its so easy and good for your legs .......Get a bike | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 7:43 pm | |
| Nilanjan, I don't agree that they'll put in superior components/parts in the test drive vehicle. Yes, I do agree that the clutch is much 'softer' in most of the other vehicles. Also I have never had any problems with regard to getting a test drive. I have lost count of the number of vehicles I have test driven. Ezee, have you driven another Logan and felt the same (hard clutch) in comparison to your car? | |
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RajeshNamb Super Loganizer
Number of posts : 655 Age : 52 City, Country : Bangalore, India LOGAN Model : DLX ClubLogan Points : 334 Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 7:48 pm | |
| Yes, the clutch has a long 'travel' when compared to other cars in the same segment. Its very obvious when one drives a small car after driving the Logan for sometime. | |
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adamkathy23 Senior Loganizer!
Number of posts : 200 Age : 43 City, Country : New Delhi LOGAN Model : GLE 1.4 ClubLogan Points : 205 Registration date : 2008-06-11
| Subject: Re: Are you satisfied with your Logan Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm | |
| Has anyone realised that it is a mobile Gym. Roll up/down the manual windows and get muscular arms..... use the clutch and have great calves......AC is just ok, So you sweat none the less and burn calories....Extensive use of power steering helps build upper Lats and Delts....... voila, I am loving it... N | |
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vsuprak Moderator
Number of posts : 1182 Age : 43 City, Country : Bangalore / IND LOGAN Model : 1.5DLX Fiery Black - 132,000kms (sold) ClubLogan Points : 1031 Registration date : 2008-03-17
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