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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:34 pm

my 2 words

As per the study conducted on B Sedan customers (by a reputed agency) one of the prime reason why people rejected the Logan is the Taxi image, which they did not want to get associated with.

In some way, this definitely makes sense. MR pushed logan into the taxi segment as their expectations of sales in the first year were very high and the Logan dint pick up that well, so taxi was an obvious route which would help garner volumes and liquidate stocks.

Toyota stopped the qualis production for quite a few reasons. Yes, the image of a taxi was definitely one of them. They were ok with having a premium taxi image, not the call-center taxi / cabbie image.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:39 pm

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Toyota Kirloskar stopped Qualis because they would most likely have felt Toyota's name getting tagged as a taxi...

The Qualis was stopped because its a generation 3 vehicle. They could have easily tinkered with the engine and brought it on par with Euro 3 norms. But the vehicle has been doing duty for more than 20 years or so. They are not worried about the vehicle being used as taxis. The Innova is a generation 5 vehicle. They skipped one generation when they brought in a replacement for the Qualis.
Again, as mentioned earlier, if one finds a vehicle extensively used as taxi, please take it for granted that the vehicle is a tried and tested one.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:56 pm

Theres nothing wrong in a car being used as a taxi!
World Over, good comfortable, economically viable cars are Taxis!
I went to Singapore and i was in a New Brand Toyota Corolla, in Dubai it was a New Toyota Camry and to top it all, in Las Vegas, i sat in a HUMMER Taxi!

Chill guys.. Nothing wrong in it!

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PostSubject: i second that taxi notion   Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:58 am

hi people
i have been running a purple logan at kochi since the last two months and have clocked 2000 km. in fact, i dropped my gaadi for her first free service this morning.

I quite agree with this taxi image being an hindrance for the buyer.. In fact, when i say that i own a logan, i get a weird " what do you think you were up to" look..

In Kerala especially, where people are image conscious ( the number of Big cars like the Honda city is very high) - the taxi image means a strict no no for logan. especially the white... reminds you of the Meru cabs.

The purple is a definite plus in that angle.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:40 pm

In Germany its 90% Mercedes for Taxis
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:49 pm

Ya..
It would take time for Indians to accept this but sooner than later it will be all ok! Its normal! Why would i sit in those Fiat taxis wen i have the options of other more comfortable cars!
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:27 am

@Maharajaa.......Its not the Ride...........Its the Rider..........


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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:28 pm

there is nothing like TAXI IMAGE...
this is nonsense stuff.
not beacause i am Logan owner but because of the fact that world over i have seen all brands Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, GM, Ford, Renault, Mercedes, BMW and almost all rest being used for comfortable public transport.

Anything that is reliable, safe and comfortable automatically qualifies for public transportation.
Many countries just dont think economy while deciding their public transport vehicle.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:26 pm

I agree with Mir... these days almost all brands are being used as taxis. One can find Innovas, Fords, Scodas, Hondas etc being used to ferry employees.

Also If one looks at a vehicle like the TATA Sumo. It was used a lot as taxis, but lot of people also bought it as a family vehicle. It didn't provide much by way of comfort or refinement... but some people liked to own the car... it was a no-frills, strongly built, spacious vehicle.

I still feel, besides other reasons, the marketing pitch for the Logan has always been wrong here.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:48 pm

Looks like there is going to be some competition to Logan ... from Skoda

http://indianautosblog.com/2009/12/skoda-plans-low-cost-sedan-targets-daciarenault-logan
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:03 am

logan7918 wrote:
Looks like there is going to be some competition to Logan ... from Skoda

http://indianautosblog.com/2009/12/skoda-plans-low-cost-sedan-targets-daciarenault-logan

Why would someone want to target a supposedly failed model??

EDIT: Ok.. they are talking about this happening in Europe. Smile

But in India skoda is not a value player and wants to push itself as a premium brand. What will they do here?
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:42 pm

Birth of Indigo CS as per my understanding was due to Logan. Tata already had Indigo. Then why CS?

Skoda also may bring low cost Sedan to india. Why not? Premium brand concept is fine and agreeable but then all players want to pitch in at least one low cost model.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:25 pm

Mir... wrote:
Birth of Indigo CS as per my understanding was due to Logan. Tata already had Indigo. Then why CS?

Even the Swift dZire
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:33 pm

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Mir... wrote:
Birth of Indigo CS as per my understanding was due to Logan. Tata already had Indigo. Then why CS?

Even the Swift dZire

Today i spotted atleast 10 Manza in Bangalore and thats quite a decent number for a new launch. To me it looked a straight competition for the Logan

Mahindra... you got a big catch-up to do
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:27 pm

As Quoted in Autocar India:

"Partnership between Renault and Mahindra will get dissolved by Jan10"


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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:00 am

I don't think this dissolution will happen so soon. Carlos Ghosn's attitude in his last interview seemed very positive about Logan and its partnership with Mahindra.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:03 am

Resale price of Logan is dropped further, now:

My 2 year old 20K driven DLS (on road 700000) in excellent condition is going out at just 3.25 L

Where as at same specs Fiesta is 4.50 L and Verna at 5.00 L
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:57 am

Please check the price of the Fiesta 2 years ago and also of the Verna. They were both costlier than the Logan. Logan's DLS would match Fiesta/Verna's Base/Mid model.

And, 1 piece of advice, if u intend to sell it, sell it now cause any cars value will only depreciate day by day and if you dont intend to sell, why keep cribbing?

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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:26 pm

Mmmm If you advertise a car for sale with 20000K and 700000 on road there is no wonder its worth nothing


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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:04 pm

If you take care of the vehicle properly it will comfortably do 4,00,000 to 5,00,000 kms. If such is the lifetime of the engine and if you are getting a decent average why are you thinking about selling it?
If you are not comfortable with the vehicle its better to sell it.
As mentioned earlier I still haven't come across a Logan sitting in a used cars showroom. To me that conveys something.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:29 pm

mine was puchased on 10 aug 2007.....has done 40000 kms and yesterday only i got a call from a guy asking about my car..

he eventualy wanted one and asked about one good conditioned logan from my service center..... they gave him a list including my name and today that person saw my car...

at first he said that according to market value....it is worth 3.90
then he finally agreed at 4.40

i was only having fun so insisted upon increasing the price but i dnt intend to sell it for more than two years frm now
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:11 pm

As far as I am concerned I will keep this car for another 8 yrs or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:14 pm

I bought it in the first place to retain her for atleast 6 yrs Smile
Knew the build was sturdy compared to many others. It would probably last quiet long.
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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:20 pm

My car is now about 3 years old and its still Bloody Good :-)
As good as new! No problems what so ever yet!! ATLEAST 3 more years yet..

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PostSubject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong   Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:59 pm

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