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PostSubject: Rat in the A/C Vent   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:44 pm

I was driving to work today, turned on the blower and noticed that there is almost no airflow from the vents. Turned it to higher speed and instantly hear 'kat-kat-kat-kat-kat' noise from the blower. I took it to the service center straight away and he confirmed that there is a rat that is stuck inside going by the sound of the blower. Also happened to notice rat footprints on the engine cover. The service advisor explained that the entire dashboard will have to be taken apart, a/c gas transferred and vents cleaned. They''ll also place a mesh to avoid such incidents in future. The whole excercise is likely to cost approximately Rs4500/-. I'll have to leave the car for 2 days. After I left the service center, happened to use the 'toggle' button by which one can select 'outside air' or 'inside air' for circulation and noticed that the toggle switch goes only a bit and does not travel all the way across. I heard the rat sqealing when I did that. Has anybody encountered such a problem? I plan to take the car tomorrow to the service center.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:20 pm

OMG..
Tats funny..
Neways.. Sorry for your case.. Actually, rats do tend to enter cars if parked at the same place for a longer period of time. Also, it is advisable to clean the under bonnet area if the car isnt parked in a garage. There are these Wax treatments available but they dont really work a lot. A friend got it done in his swift but we still found rat chewed wires and windshield water pipe.

No available solutions for the same as we had discussed in another topic earlier. There are openings left open intentionally for water to escape and fresh air intake..
Only take care you park your car in a cleaner area and periodically get engine area cleaned.

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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:53 pm

hey Rajesh.. welcome to the club.. i have had a rat in my WagonR AC vent and one that completely ate up my bike's wiring... sad and anger inducing yes.. but as Saumil said.. not much you can do really... the mesh will save your AC vent.. but there are other places where these guys can crawl into and bug you..
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:29 pm

They now plan to put a mesh around the opening. I don't understand why they can't install a mesh at the factory level itself. Really disappointing.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:16 pm

Collected my car today. They found a total of 5 rats (one dead) in the air circulation unit. They have now installed a metal mesh at the air intake outlet. I also heard from my neighbour that he too had encountered the rat menace. He owns a Maruti Suzuki Alto. After 3 months of using the vehicle he came across this problem. RNS Motors replaced the wiring and they didn't charge anything for the labour. It was all done free of cost.

I spoke about the mesh to the Manager at the service center and he said that if it was installed at the fatory level, it would compromise the aerodynamic capability of the vehicle. Frankly speaking I haven't come across anything a more irrelavant or stupid reasoning.

He waived off close to 50% of the total cost. I paid Rs2200/ (tax inclusive) instead of Rs4200/- or more.

I am definitely very disappointed with the entire episode. I was wondering as to what would have happened if a snake had entered instead of the rats.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:25 pm

the snake would have died a painful death...
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:38 pm

RajeshNamb wrote:
I spoke about the mesh to the Manager at the service center and he said that if it was installed at the fatory level, it would compromise the aerodynamic capability of the vehicle. Frankly speaking I haven't come across anything a more irrelavant or stupid reasoning.
these guys think that the average car buyer is a fool!! sad case that is!
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:52 pm

Can we put in the mesh ourselves as a precaution?

There definitely are rats in the area where we stay.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:07 pm

Recently one of my car's fog lamps stopped working. Taking it to the service station confirmed rat chewing up portions of electrical wiring. It cost me 250 bucks. There is nothing much we can help from the rat menace. The rats love the Logan sooo much.... Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:59 pm

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrats! i say!

try the home grown methods suggested earlier ..
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:26 pm

This is getting out of hand. One day after I took the car from the service center, it has started to stink again. Yesterday night I noticed the stink and today morning too it was no different. I think before they they installed the mesh another rat must have got in or they didn't check it throughly. The car was at the service center overnight. I had the M800 earlier and didn't come across this issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:16 pm

ohhh..

go and held collars of service ppl


they are treating us like creeps......u shud literally blow on them for this
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:52 am

This is getting better by the day. I took it to the service center yesterday and they found a dead rat under the front passenger seat, stuck between the railing. In the process of locating the rat he again opened up the dashboard, a/c assembly and this time removed the seats, carpet and anything and everything else. It was 'naked' from within (interior). But the story doesn't end here. I skipped my lunch to make sure everything is in order. In the evening after I started driving back home, noticed that air blowing (outside mode) from the vents is warm. Made sure the heater is not on. I have to take the vehicle again to the service center.
Rdr, I think we can install the mesh ourselves. For that, you'll have to take off the plastic grill at the bottom of the glass. I suggest using 'silicon sealant' (from Dow Corning or GE or Anabond) to keep the mesh in place. Also there is another opening on the right hand side (when facing the vehicle). Water drains out through that hole. Make sure you design the mesh to resemble a 'bulb' and after inserting it in the opening bend it outwards all around the opening from beneath and use the sealant to hold it in place. One can also use tobacco. Pack tobacco in a mesh (as in the case of toilet de-ordarant) and keep it firmly in an appropriate place in the engine bay.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:36 pm

I am fresh with the problem of rats getting into the AC duct. Over the year end, i had left car unused for over a week and by the time i got back to using it, the rats have had their say.

First day, as i started the car, i heard a thud sound it didnt bother me much, but suddenly after i noticed that the Steering wheel became so difficult to operate, its power functionality had gone. Also, the lights on the monitor coming up like Oil etc. I didnt have any other alt but to call Mahindra service to attend this at home. They came home, checked the car to find the belt having been dislodged and the dead rat inside nearby the belt. Got me charged me 1500 Rs.

For last couple of days, the AC vent has been giving a lot of noise and the workshop guys just told me that to clean it up all, its 2 days and 4k !! So the rat family has costed me 6000 Rs and some agony... damn the whole thing

Apparently, The AC ducting is very new and thus making it costlier as against the earlier versions of Logan
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:36 pm

I have heard that if you get a urinal stone (Or a few) and place them in different places under the hood you will keep vermin away
Here I Germany we have a animal called a Marder and he eats rubber so you can imagine what he gets up to when he is under the hood ! One ate a complete set of Plug leads on my car ! It was 1 week old they also eat the wiper blades
TRY THAT WITH THE URINAL STONES !
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:19 pm

logan7918, can I recommend you an alternative...

Had the same problem of a rat stuck in the ac vent Sept last. The car was not used.....parked in the garage for about two months; when we started driving, initially lot of sputtering sound from the ac vent, the fan would work after some effort, but no cool air and also foul smell. Initial reaction was to call up Mahindra people, but then decided to get a second opinion first...!

A local electrician immediately placed the finger on the problem....a rat / rats have claimed the ac duct...solution ......well ....will take about an hour to clean it up...if I had the time....like hell...I had all the time for it.

Lemme explain to you the system first. If you open the hood (bonnet), you will see a plastic / rubber mesh at the base of the windscreen. On the right hand side (as you face the car) just under this mesh is an almost oval shape opening about 3-4 inches long and about 2 inches wide, which is the duct for fresh air. This duct leads towards the left to a small compartment in which the blower (fan assembly of the ac) is located....when seen from inside the cabin, this fan assembly is right in the centre of the dash board behind the ac controls. My rodent friend had made this blower compartment his home, stuffed it up with whole lot of pieces of paper, leaves and polythene. It was so well packed that fresh air could not pass through and hence the fan though running, was ineffective. As if it was not enough, it had also died there - hence the foul smell.

This local mechanic opened the plastic mesh - there are two plastic screw type press fits one on either side of the mesh at the very end. (Once you start opening, you realise that the wire mesh is actually in two parts). He removed it along with the rubber beading which holds it in place. Wriggling his hand into the oval opening, very patiently and painfully (if I may add), bit by bit, he pulled out every piece of scrap from the blower compartment. There were pieces also stuck in the blower blades, which involved switching on and off the blower several times. Quite obviously, it requires some one with small hands as the opening is small and the space for manouvre limited.

There is a roundish opening at the right end corner under the plastic mesh which opens underneath the engine compartment - perhaps was the point of entry. This can be sealed by a wire mesh with some sealant.

Initially for some time, windows rolled down and a liberal dose of car perfume was needed to get over the foul smell...but the ac is working perfectly fine, no noise and air as cool as ever...no foul smell either.

I am sure any sensible local mechanic can do this job. Worth trying it out.

To my pleasant surprise, all he asked for was Rs 150/- for that effort (that would be about 3 or 4 USD for Martin)...of course I tipped him generously because it saved me so much trouble.

Hope this is of some use. Am not in Delhi (will reach only in Feb end), or would have sent you pics as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:52 pm

martin245 wrote:
I have heard that if you get a urinal stone (Or a few) and place them in different places under the hood you will keep vermin away !

I am still to get my car back. Today, when i went to collect it, the mechanic told me we just got more noise coming and they tell me late in the evening that atleast 1 rat is inside the vent... Gosh.. i cant imagine how that chap has been sitting inside it for this long
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PostSubject: Re: Rat in the A/C Vent   Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:00 pm

Get a Cat !!! clown
and @ Loganromeo I use Euros not Dollars Razz I enjoyed reading you "WELL WRITTEN" story gave me a laugh ! Keep that sense of humor mate its priceless in life

Oh yes and Martin is my last name my first name is Stuart
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