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sAuMiL Admin


 Number of posts: 1206 Age: 27 City, Country: Mumbai, India LOGAN Model: Logan DLE Sahara Beige Registration date: 2008-01-01
 | Subject: Mahindra-Renault going strong Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:31 pm | |
| | Quote: | STATEMENT FROM MAHINDRA & MAHINDRA LTD. The misinformed, comment upon the fact that a Nissan, Renault and Mahindra tripartite agreement for a facility in Chennai announced in 2007 might be under threat!! And then goes on to state that the same might be a point of worry for Logan customers as it also raises concerns over the future of the Mahindra-Renault Joint Venture! For the benefit of all concerned - we would like to reiterate that the Mahindra Group had pulled out of the Chennai project way back in 2008 itself. Recently, there have been media reports in leading publications like the Hindu Business Line, DNA Money and Financial Chronicle on February 12, 2009, that Renault's upcoming plant in Chennai may be put on hold. The same reports also state that M&M and Renault may re-initiate talks to manufacture Logan derivatives like the Sandero hatchback and Steppe station wagon at the M&M facility in Nashik. We would like to highlight the fact that the MRPL Pvt Ltd., the Joint Venture (JV) between M&M Ltd and Renault SA is concrete and cohesive, and has been functioning as per the strategies formulated and agreed upon by both companies with regard to their product range. Therefore, in this situation, as Renault SA has voiced in (DNA Money, Hindu Business Line and Financial Chronicle on Feb 12, 2009) the media that the company is indeed stepping out of the 50:50 revenue-sharing manufacturing facility in Chennai, they may manufacture future
products on the Logan platform (more derivatives) out of M&M's Nashik plant, where the existing Logan version is being produced. As has been stated before, Renault SA will also be using our dealer network to distribute its products in India. We are currently in talks with our joint venture partner on the future course of action and will make an official announcement once a decision is taken. We would also like to state that Mahindra's relationship with Renault SA will remain on course, irrespective of any other associations Renault SA may have in India.
The Mahindra Renault Logan has been a successful product for us since its launch in April 2007. The Logan has received several prestigious industry accolades and awards which highlights the tremendous customer response to this mid-sized sedan. Further, the Limited Edition-Logan Edge launched in July 2008 was extremely well received and we plan to soon launch a new variant of the Logan Edge solely based on customer demand. We would like to reiterate the fact that at M&M we are very proud of the success of the Logan, which is a result of the co-operation between both partners. We will continue to work towards achieving greater heights with this award winning product. Yours sincerely, Roma Balwani VP & Head - Corporate Communication Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd.
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Logan_loverinDelhi Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 356 Age: 32 City, Country: New Delhi, India LOGAN Model: 1.6GLX Registration date: 2008-07-22
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:08 pm | |
| good... but why take such pain in defending oneself?  .. i guess the media scrutiny was creating pressure cooker atmosphere for them |
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sAuMiL Admin


 Number of posts: 1206 Age: 27 City, Country: Mumbai, India LOGAN Model: Logan DLE Sahara Beige Registration date: 2008-01-01
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:15 pm | |
| This was a reply to some blog elsewer where it was said that lack of communication from Mahindra on the JV causes concern
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ashutosh Moderator


 Number of posts: 456 Age: 27 City, Country: NOIDA LOGAN Model: 1.4 GLE Registration date: 2008-01-23
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:53 am | |
| Good that they have tried to clear the air. |
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Mir... Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 524 Age: 32 City, Country: Ahmedabad, Gujarat LOGAN Model: 1.4 GLX Registration date: 2009-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:51 pm | |
| what surprises me is why have they not introduced any new model since logan. they are just trying different variants of same logan. they could have brought in CLIO, LAGUNA or MEGANE. i think these could do fairly good in indian markets. CLIO can go behind hyundai i10 LAGUNA can go after SX4, LINEA MEGANE can actually crush SKODA, CHEVROLET, VERNA, FIESTA Can we list a single foreign car manufacturer company that may have entered with just one model in indian market and that too for some 4 years now. |
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martin245 Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 1013 Age: 57 City, Country: Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model: DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:45 pm | |
| The big problem is getting all these cars to India and the cost would be immense dont forget you need a massive network of Renault owned garages to make this work and would need to sell Millions of cars to make it halfway work The LOGAN was designed to fit in this loophole and is made as you know by different makers using Renault Technology it is made as a car that has no frills its a car to get you from A to Z and it does this well and the parts used in the Logan are mainly taken from the Twingo ie the little button under the handbrake for moving the mirrors is from a twingo and lots of other stuff Stu _________________ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals Stuart (In Germany)
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rdr Senior Loganizer!


 Number of posts: 213 Age: 31 City, Country: Chennai, India LOGAN Model: Mahindra Logan Edge 1.6 GLSx ABS Registration date: 2008-08-08
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:51 am | |
| What button under the handbrake? hmm... |
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Mir... Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 524 Age: 32 City, Country: Ahmedabad, Gujarat LOGAN Model: 1.4 GLX Registration date: 2009-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| Car mein Button......... (Button On Car) kahaa , kidhar.... (Where) @martin245 --> it is all about a company's vision ond growth strategy. we have hyundai selling accent, santro, getz, verna, sonata, elantra (at least 6 that i know) we have honda selling city, civic and CRV we have merc selling many models... cant remember the various series... we have audi selling some 3 sedans and a SUV model.... why not renault? its like more market presence increases company credibility.... at least this is the way I look at it..... and Megane, Clio, laguna etc. are fantastic ones and could fair well.... |
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martin245 Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 1013 Age: 57 City, Country: Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model: DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:30 pm | |
| Over here we have a button Near the handbrake to adjust our mirrors It will be I suppose not on your Logan so there will be a little round mark or PLUG where this button would have been Stu _________________ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals Stuart (In Germany)
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vsuprak Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 584 Age: 29 City, Country: Bangalore LOGAN Model: LOGAN 1.5DLX Fiery Black Registration date: 2008-03-16
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:35 am | |
| Fresh News Today Morning. Renault and M&M out of funds to grease their hands Posted: 09 Oct 2009 10:46 AM PDT The proposed alliance between Renault and Mahindra & Mahindra took the neutral position and yet to kick off, due to lack of funds. The companies are partnering under the banner Renault India and Mahindra & Mahindra (MRPL) to make and sell Logan sedan. For months together there has been no green signal recover the brand image, except negotiations between them. Main factors that contributed for the hassle are recession and fund lock. The car is the lone brand under the JV, the pressure is mounting on the early recovery. The company has analysed the cost factor as the main one for the downfall of the sales. It costs more(Rs4.2 lakh-Rs7 lakhs) than Swift Dzire, Tata Indigo and Ford Ikon sedans. Further, the technical flaws like the wiper on the left for the right hand drive too brought the rejection. M&M has been offering the marketing back up through its 100 dealers. While there is no final word about the depart of the partners, both companies are conscious of the investment made so far. Renault is in tie –up with Nissan on 50:50 basis to make cars at the Chennai plant; with Rs200 crore being diverted to the Nashik plant. Thus the investment may accrue to Rs1000crore for Renault alone. Even if the companies break apart, Renault would have a large say and same is the case with M&M too. Amidst these speculations, the companies are burning the midnight candle on promoting more sedan variants- Sandero, a hatchback on Logan platform. In addition, M&M would make its own products in Nashik plant. Everything is on paper and air, but for the outcome we have to wait further.  |
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ezee Newbie Loganizer!


 Number of posts: 176 Age: 33 City, Country: Gurgaon LOGAN Model: Others think I am a fool, who try to raise issues for which we spent our hard earned money Registration date: 2008-02-15
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:08 pm | |
| ha ha ha ..... funny na Europes biggest and India's biggest SUV, MUV & UV sellers are out of fund -dumb they are making us fool and looking for options to quit, the only bottom line I can think off is MRPL thought Logan is the biggest seller in EU countries so it will be a big hit in country like India too because it has a lot of seedan seekers. Common wake you big phat salary takers of MRPL and think out the box show some courage call Logan owners alk to them get their feeler aggression and then decide and learn from your rivals about car call backs for small small manuf defects. But they forgot the economy trends of India creeping upwards and cultural mindset of a typical Indians believe in having a showoff kinda car rather that So called value for money car. In my view the biggest VFM car cum UV is Mahindra Bolero but that does not mean that every Indian buy Bolero only. They should learn from Honda with its most successful killer design model the old wine Honda City (NHC & HC) it was revolution in non conventional designs which they are cashingout till date. _________________ 1.5 DCi - DLS (T RED) - Logan Club
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martin245 Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 1013 Age: 57 City, Country: Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model: DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:57 pm | |
| The Logan in Europe is NOT made by Renault its made By Dacia Just like yours is made by Mahindra ! If I take my Dacia to a Renault Garage in the United Kingdom witha Garantee problem they will refuse it because its not a Renault it will have to be sorted out by Dacia who are not yet in the UK Renault supply the Knowhow and the drive trains the rest is up to the firms themselfs to get it running Stu _________________ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals Stuart (In Germany)
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ezee Newbie Loganizer!


 Number of posts: 176 Age: 33 City, Country: Gurgaon LOGAN Model: Others think I am a fool, who try to raise issues for which we spent our hard earned money Registration date: 2008-02-15
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:22 pm | |
| That is the positive you have in UK atleast Renault is established there and tomorrow if something wrong happens with Dacia JV Renault is there to take care of your cars. But here in India the scene is pathetic Renault is even yet to start its manufaturing plant in Chennai (and yes that is not for India but for cost cutting and sending cars to you people there in EU and other countries). So we cant dream about having a Renault tech handling our cars. Regarding Mahindra's service guys everybody here knows how trained they are to handle Logan. _________________ 1.5 DCi - DLS (T RED) - Logan Club
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martin245 Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 1013 Age: 57 City, Country: Karlsbad Spielberg Germany Some do not like the way I answer posts .but if you read between the lines you will see sense in what I write LOGAN Model: DACIA LOGAN 14mpi Lauriette Simply Red Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:04 pm | |
| Yes but not the Garantee name some stuff that is being built in India for the European Renault Market (and not carpets) _________________ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals Stuart (In Germany)
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vsuprak Super Loganizer


 Number of posts: 584 Age: 29 City, Country: Bangalore LOGAN Model: LOGAN 1.5DLX Fiery Black Registration date: 2008-03-16
 | Subject: Re: Mahindra-Renault going strong Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:11 pm | |
| | ezee wrote: | | ha ha ha ..... funny na Europes biggest and India's biggest SUV, MUV & UV sellers are out of fund -dumb they are making us fool and looking for options to quit.... |
Renault has more worries than what they face on the Indian soils here. Back in europe, they have bigger crunches to address. Its not a very rosy picture as any focus in India means diverting funds from some EU project to this place. Definitley worrisome, also when your CEO is trying to keep afloat another company (NISSAN) in the midst of the slowdown. There is a total lack of support & commitment fromMahindra, which is visibly evident.
| ezee wrote: | | ..call Logan owners alk to them get their feeler aggression and then decide and learn from your rivals about car call backs for small small manuf defects.... |
Wont do any good calling logan owners. They should call owners of Dzire, Linea, City, + + + to see what they liked in their cars.
What kind of small defects? If the potential of defect causes no harm to safety & lives, there's no need to recall. It can be taken care of by a gentle mail & the next service.
| ezee wrote: | | ..But they forgot the economy trends of India creeping upwards and cultural mindset of a typical Indians believe in having a showoff kinda car rather that So called value for money car.... |
Agree to this.
| ezee wrote: | | ...In my view the biggest VFM car cum UV is Mahindra Bolero but that does not mean that every Indian buy Bolero only..... |
That cant be called a car. UV, I agree. Cars dont have brackets sticking out of the body and you dont hang on to some grab rail for dear life while driving. |
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