I think they should bring the new model here (India) that is already released in Romania as soon as possible.

Few days before when I was driving Santro and another day Alto, I noticed the cause behind the hard clutch of Logan (Diesel). Both has wired clutch system and enquily hard as Logan but there is a major difference, you will only feel the hardness when clutch is half pressed and hardness or pressure disaapears when clutch is pressed in full.

Also while pressing clutch in full you will notice a softness at the end, may be a ball or something that soaks the pressure and prevents clutch to comeout easily untill you remove the pressure. This is not happening in Logans and from begining to end you will feel same constant pressure, which hurts when you have to press clutch for a long period or short intervals.

I would suggest you guys to try driving Santro and you will immediately feel the difference or missing technology.

Well ! I own an Alto and have driven Santro on several occassions... I do not find the clutch on my Logan 1.4 harder than the alto or santro, also I didn't notice the difference in pressure over the pedal travel distance.... i've driven only about 3000 kms.... and it's still a pleasure driving the Logan.

The Alto is approacing a clutch overhaul stage, so at the moment it is set a little harder and is therefore harder than the logan.

Okay, I seem to have to missed the action here in earlier pages. I took a look at the link Ezee posted and here is what I wote there:

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1 minute ago Rajesh Nambiar I have covered close to 25000Kms in the 1.5DLX. The vehicle in general is good value for money. The diesel engine is wonderful. You have to be in the appropriate gear to appreciate its power. I have taken it to steep climbs and descents and it does it in style with the vehicle fully occupied and additional luggage. It gives me between 17-20kmpl with a/c on in city. Clutch is a bit hard nothing to cause pain to ones leg. Take it to the service station once in a while and they'll make it 'smooth' in 15-20 minutes, no charges for that. No rattling interiors. The fit and finish of the interiors is decent. In fact, the interiors were completly taken apart because rats had entered and they put it back perfectly, no vibrations at all. The body is bulit like a 'tank', real heavy and gives a feeling of security once inside. I have touched 160km/hr with just half or a little more of the throttle depressed with 4 people inside. I did have issues with the service center but they have more or less been taken care of. They have improved a lot.

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Touchwood!

Ezee, I can only say that you may have to go to service center more frequently than others to 'soften' your clutch.

I did take a look at the Fiat Linea interiors and definitely it is cheap. I feel Palio has better quality interior.
I haven't driven the Linea though.

I do not agree with the concept of half press cluth will be on different pressure and full pressed one will be on different. as per me it will be either hard or soft, as simple as that. i dont think that in a car someone will invent some half press and full press technologies. what is the value add in this? better provide a soft clutch through out. why half, quarter or full...

i have driven linea, though after i bought my logan.
if i am to be believed i was not biased when i drove it.

it definitely looks good. i am not saying better. but for most it is better.

interiors are doable. looking at price of linea they seem to be bit lower standard.

rear seat can never accomodate 3 adults comfortably.

linea lacks power with AC on.

overall it is not at all worth its price.
but then india goes after sheer beauty.

I do not agree with the concept of half press cluth will be on different pressure and full pressed one will be on different. as per me it will be either hard or soft, as simple as that. i dont think that in a car someone will invent some half press and full press technologies. what is the value add in this? better provide a soft clutch through out. why half, quarter or full...

i have driven linea, though after i bought my logan.
if i am to be believed i was not biased when i drove it.

it definitely looks good. i am not saying better. but for most it is better.

interiors are doable. looking at price of linea they seem to be bit lower standard.

rear seat can never accomodate 3 adults comfortably.

linea lacks power with AC on.

overall it is not at all worth its price.
but then india goes after sheer beauty.

DONT KNOW WHY THIS APPEARED TWICE... SORRY FOR THAT.

Very true about Linea especially the observation about seating 3 adults. If one is above average height then the head will touch the cieling.
Yes, either the clutch is hard or soft not half way this and half way that. Anyway, the clutch is meant to be depressed completely while changing gears.

Logan continue to show a major decline in sales figure with only 427 units sold in May, 2009, where as in May, 2008 it was 1531 units. Where others showing marginal increase in sales with Maruti on top with around 12% increase.

Dismal performance, getting bad by the day

Guys, This is a fact which we all have to live with now.
Logan sales are never going to rise in here.
I am prepared for the worst. I do not see a single Logan being sold in India by end of this year. Biggest market for this car as i see is the public transport market. This is a big potential for Logan given present circumstances.

Only reason i could gather so far is
Indian population has not accepted Renault and Renault has not done anything about this. So it is only Renault who is to be blamed. It needs to pump more mullah in to India and gain visibility thereby gaining public confidence by quite some interesting ads and promos.
Mahindra can not be blamed for this as it is the top seller in SUV Indian market space and hence market does believe in Mahindra.

Unlike other countries people in India buy car which they are going to use for centuries together. So they are very cautious buying one and do not want to venture into new streets.

Maruti sales will always be steady and on rise as that is a LEGACY brand in India. Maruti can not be compared with any other brand.

The basic strategy seems missing here with Mahindra Renault, of gaining peoples attention either by a class product or launch of new products on regular intervals (as Maruti & Hyundai is doing these days). In India people attract towards something new rather than a boring machine.

Its now more than 2 years since Logan launched in Indian market but they did not do anything except some print & TV ads for few days or polishing boring Logan model with some new interiors. Also they cant reduce the cost as it may be a matter of prestige as well for Renault.

If Renault is serious about Indian market then they have to bring in new models like twingo, clio, megan, laguna etc. step by step. MCV market is alaready captured by Mahindra series of MUV's so there is no hope for Logan MCV.

Company trust and word of mouth matters a lot in India than technical details, so they should focus on gaining peoples trust with cost and quality with attraction.

PS: My 1 paisa advice wont do anything, coz they must have all the ideas & experts working on those but we can only keep our fingers crossed for MR JV till we own Logan in future.

Most of us from Metro cities where servicing & spares are not a big problem, but I tell you guys problem has already started now from other cities like Lucknow, where spare parts and wuality mechanics are not available. Even spares like a clutch wire is on order only, this is something similar started as earlier happened with Fiat (Palio) customers before TATA buys maintenance and sales. Thats why I tell you to keep your fingers crossed.

Guys .. lot of new models coming into the market .... a bit of fluctuation in sales figures is expected. Also the recession has had it's impact. The automobile industry i sgoing through uncertain times... also wait for the Nano effect... we niver know what might be in store for lot of us.
A good product should always have buyers.. and india is a huge market ... there's space for all kinds of products here... let's hope that Logan lasts out in the long run... i think it should.
The following is taken from wikipedia content for dacia Logan:

'The Logan is vital to increasing sales of the Renault group to the 4 million mark by 2010. In markets where Renault has an existing presence, such as European,
African and Asian countries (i.e. Romania, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, Hungary,Poland, Serbia, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia,
Morocco, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and many others) it is sold as the Dacia Logan.[6] Exceptions are South Africa, Argentina, Russia, China, Colombia, Egypt,
Brazil, Chile (Colombian made), and Venezuela where it is marketed as the Renault Logan.
In India, the Logan is marketed as the Mahindra Renault Logan[7] Renault partnering with the Indian utility and commercial vehicles manufacturer Mahindra &
Mahindra Limited.
In Mexico, the Logan is sold as the Nissan Aprio, given the better reputation of the Japanese brand in the Mexican market. Nissan Aprio has 1.6-litre 103 bhp
16 valve engine with 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission.[8]
In 2007, Iran also began selling Logan models as Renault Tondar 90[9] by Renault-Pars Co. manufactured in Pars Khodro and Iran Khodro[10] . After a mere
month of production, more than 100,000 Tondar 90 have been ordered, even though deliveries will start only in May 2007[11] .'


This car has done so well worldwide... it should do well here too.

The sales figures for March 2009 are given below:

9-Mar

8-Mar

TD March 2009

YTD March 2008

Logan**

962

3068

13423

25891

Courtesy: The Mahindra Group